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mesaj 15 Nov 2005, 01:22 AM
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Perioada 1990 - 1998 (9 ani), fonduri PHARE. Prima coloana reprezinta suma alocata in urma negocierilor, a doua suma efectiv platita, ultima procentul de absorbtie (= suma platita / suma alocata * 100). Sumele sunt date in echivalent ECU la valoarea din 1998
Polonia 1731,5 1251,3 72,3 %
Ungaria 864,0 567,0 65,6 %
Cehia (+ Cehoslovacia) 622,4 405,7 65,2 %
Slovacia 253,2 133,0 52,5 %
Slovenia 131,3 77,7 59,2 %
Letonia 206,6 115,0 55,7

Astea sunt fondurile care 'au scos Cehia, Ungaria si Polonia din marasm' ?!???? rofl.gif

p.s : programul PHARE a reprezentat cam 35 % din fondurile alocate nemancatilor din est in perioada respectiva.

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Despre Planul Marshall
"THE MARSHALL PLAN (1947)
On June 5, 1947, Secretary of State George C. Marshall spoke at Harvard University and outlined what would become known as the Marshall Plan. Europe, still devastated by the war, had just survived one of the worst winters on record. The nations of Europe had nothing to sell for hard currency, and the democratic socialist governments in most countries were unwilling to adopt the draconian proposals for recovery advocated by old-line classical economists. Something had to be done, both for humanitarian reasons and also to stop the potential spread of communism westward.

The United States offered up to $20 billion for relief, but only if the European nations could get together and draw up a rational plan on how they would use the aid. For the first time, they would have to act as a single economic unit; they would have to cooperate with each other. Marshall also offered aid to the Soviet Union and its allies in eastern Europe, but Stalin denounced the program as a trick and refused to participate. The Russian rejection probably made passage of the measure through Congress possible.

The Marshall Plan, it should be noted, benefited the American economy as well. The money would be used to buy goods from the United States, and they had to be shipped across the Atlantic on American merchant vessels. But it worked. By 1953 the United States had pumped in $13 billion, and Europe was standing on its feet again. Moreover, the Plan included West Germany, which was thus reintegrated into the European community. (The aid was all economic; it did not include military aid until after the Korean War.)

Aside from helping to put Europe back on its feet, the Marshall Plan led to the Schuman Plan, which in turn led to Euratom, then the Coal and Iron Community and the Common Market, and pointed to what may yet evolve into an economically and politically united Europe. In many ways, the Marshall Plan satisfied both those who wanted our foreign policy to be generous and idealistic and those who demanded realpolitik; it helped feed the starving and shelter the homeless, and at the same time stopped the spread of communism and put the European economy back on its feet.

For further reading: John Gimbel, The Origins of the Marshall Plan (1976); Imanuel Wexler, The Marshall Plan Revisited (1983); Michael Hogan, The Marshall Plan (1987).

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Despre situatia de dupa razboi.
Citez din lucrarea 'Economia Romaniei in context european - 1947' / Bucuresti, 1997
Productia neta totala a industriei din Romania si alte tari europene - 1947 (mil usd, preturi 1938)
1. Marea Britanie 7232
2. Germania 3107 (tara distrusa de razboi si care practic inca nu incepuse sa beneficieze de planul Marshall !!!)
3. Franta 2997
4. Italia 1456
5. Suedia 1064
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15. Romania 170
Incredibil ! Mai exista industrie in Germania ! Si chiar se producea ceva !


Achernar, te rog ca pe viitor sa traduci textele postate in limbi straine (ori macar sa faci un rezumat in romana).
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nefertiti-old   Cum Ar Fi Sa Nu Existe Ue?   8 Nov 2005, 04:37 PM
Leonardo   UE cred ca e cea mai vizionara idee la ora actuala...   9 Nov 2005, 10:40 AM
tihomir   QUOTE Daca nu ar fi UE: - nici o tara europeana lu...   10 Nov 2005, 02:49 PM
Leonardo   Toate tarile intrate in UE in valul din 2004 au in...   10 Nov 2005, 03:11 PM
tihomir   In Ungaria a fost distrusa agricultura dupa aderar...   10 Nov 2005, 03:27 PM
Leonardo   -"in Ungaria a fost distrusa agricultura...   10 Nov 2005, 03:39 PM
abis   QUOTE (tihomir @ 10 Nov 2005, 03:27 PM) In Ungaria...   10 Nov 2005, 03:44 PM
MIA   QUOTE (Leonardo @ 10 Nov 2005, 03:11 PM) Toate tar...   10 Nov 2005, 05:22 PM
abis   QUOTE (MIA @ 10 Nov 2005, 05:22 PM) pur si simplu ...   10 Nov 2005, 05:27 PM
MIA   QUOTE (abis @ 10 Nov 2005, 05:27 PM) Nu am spus ca...   10 Nov 2005, 05:42 PM
tihomir   Polonia are probleme economice dupa aderare o spun...   10 Nov 2005, 11:59 PM
Achernar   Nici chiar asa. De fapt - la nivel national - dupa...   11 Nov 2005, 01:48 PM
MIA   QUOTE (Achernar @ 11 Nov 2005, 01:48 PM) Daca inai...   11 Nov 2005, 02:22 PM
tihomir   QUOTE De fapt - la nivel national - dupa aderare c...   11 Nov 2005, 03:59 PM
abis   E crestere, dar e mai mica decat inainte. E ca si ...   11 Nov 2005, 04:02 PM
tihomir   Deci daca cresterea de 10% era fireasca nu inseamn...   11 Nov 2005, 04:33 PM
MIA   QUOTE (tihomir @ 11 Nov 2005, 03:59 PM) QUOTE De f...   11 Nov 2005, 04:54 PM
Leonardo   cresterea economica e mai mica si datorita faptulu...   11 Nov 2005, 05:05 PM
abis   Leonardo, Unde ai fost, frate, cand am avut dezba...   11 Nov 2005, 05:10 PM
Leonardo   problema e ca n-am fost...aici data viitoare...   11 Nov 2005, 05:11 PM
MIA   QUOTE (Leonardo @ 11 Nov 2005, 05:05 PM) cres...   11 Nov 2005, 05:30 PM
Leonardo   Mia iti dau dreptate...dar asta e un efect pe term...   11 Nov 2005, 05:59 PM
Achernar   1. Da. 'Banii primiti de la UE'. Stii ce e...   12 Nov 2005, 09:44 PM
MIA   QUOTE (Achernar @ 12 Nov 2005, 09:44 PM) Ca idee v...   13 Nov 2005, 09:54 AM
Leonardo   1. Pe langa fondurile puse la dispozitie si depede...   14 Nov 2005, 04:01 PM
MIA   QUOTE (Leonardo @ 14 Nov 2005, 04:01 PM) E ca...   14 Nov 2005, 04:34 PM
Leonardo   Mia: poti sa spui dar nu stiu daca poti sa sustii ...   14 Nov 2005, 05:30 PM
MIA   Păi să o luăm pe rānd, de la coad...   14 Nov 2005, 09:40 PM
Achernar   Perioada 1990 - 1998 (9 ani), fonduri PHARE. Prima...   15 Nov 2005, 01:22 AM
Leonardo   Achernar si Mia: In primul rand absolutizati cee...   15 Nov 2005, 11:09 AM
MIA   QUOTE (Leonardo @ 15 Nov 2005, 11:09 AM) Fondurile...   15 Nov 2005, 12:02 PM
MIA   QUOTE In primul rand absolutizati ceea ce am spus...   15 Nov 2005, 12:10 PM
Achernar   Comert exterior in Europa, 2005, semestrul 1 Coloa...   15 Nov 2005, 12:52 PM
Leonardo   Mia: imi mentin comparatia desi nu pot sa dau proc...   15 Nov 2005, 01:28 PM
MIA   QUOTE (Leonardo @ 15 Nov 2005, 01:28 PM) Repet ce ...   15 Nov 2005, 01:55 PM
Achernar   1. Sper ca e destul de evident faptul ca UE nu alo...   15 Nov 2005, 02:18 PM
abis   MIA, Eu nu inteleg - si nu am inteles nici cand n...   15 Nov 2005, 02:18 PM
MIA   QUOTE (abis @ 15 Nov 2005, 02:18 PM) MIA, Eu nu i...   15 Nov 2005, 02:39 PM
abis   Vezi ca nu e 2005... Ce anume ar trebui schimbat...   15 Nov 2005, 02:49 PM
Achernar   De fapt daca ar fi vorba de UE din perioada 2000 -...   15 Nov 2005, 03:00 PM
MIA   QUOTE (abis @ 15 Nov 2005, 02:49 PM) Vezi ca nu e ...   15 Nov 2005, 03:13 PM
Leonardo   QUOTE (Achernar @ 15 Nov 2005, 03:00 PM) De fapt d...   15 Nov 2005, 06:05 PM
MIA   QUOTE (Leonardo @ 15 Nov 2005, 06:05 PM) Fiind vor...   15 Nov 2005, 09:46 PM
Leonardo   Tranzitia lor este legata de tranzitia catre UE, c...   15 Nov 2005, 09:59 PM
MIA   QUOTE (Leonardo @ 15 Nov 2005, 09:59 PM) Tranzitia...   15 Nov 2005, 10:22 PM
Achernar   Pentru tarile dezvoltate nu e vorba de un soc semn...   16 Nov 2005, 11:56 AM
MIA   QUOTE (Achernar @ 16 Nov 2005, 11:56 AM) In ceea c...   16 Nov 2005, 01:22 PM
abis   MIA si Achernar: Voi tot dati inainte cu teorii g...   16 Nov 2005, 02:17 PM
Achernar   Pai nu e clar ? Romania se afla in situatia unui c...   16 Nov 2005, 02:51 PM
abis   QUOTE (Achernar @ 16 Nov 2005, 02:51 PM) Teoretic ...   16 Nov 2005, 03:15 PM
MIA   QUOTE (abis @ 16 Nov 2005, 03:15 PM) Nu exista mec...   16 Nov 2005, 03:42 PM
Achernar   @ abis E ceva mai complicat. Cazul 'Romania...   16 Nov 2005, 03:58 PM
abis   QUOTE (MIA @ 16 Nov 2005, 03:42 PM) Un stat nu poa...   16 Nov 2005, 06:02 PM
Achernar   Cum sa ne lase pe-afara ? Nu-ti zisei cum devine c...   17 Nov 2005, 11:40 AM
abis   QUOTE (Achernar @ 17 Nov 2005, 11:40 AM) Cum sa ne...   17 Nov 2005, 12:02 PM
Achernar   1. Prin mecanisme de acelasi tip cu cele folosite ...   17 Nov 2005, 01:01 PM
abis   QUOTE (Achernar @ 17 Nov 2005, 01:01 PM) 1. Prin m...   17 Nov 2005, 02:42 PM
Achernar   1. Ala de aderare a RoBulgariei la UE. Vezi anexel...   17 Nov 2005, 04:13 PM
abis   QUOTE (Achernar @ 17 Nov 2005, 04:13 PM) 1. Ala de...   17 Nov 2005, 05:22 PM
Achernar   1. Poti sa stii cat de exceptionala va fi situatia...   18 Nov 2005, 10:59 AM
MIA   QUOTE (Achernar @ 17 Nov 2005, 11:40 AM) Nu te baz...   18 Nov 2005, 11:09 AM
abis   QUOTE (Achernar @ 18 Nov 2005, 10:59 AM) Nu ar cas...   18 Nov 2005, 11:21 AM
MIA   Ce inseamna sa nu citesti cu atentie un schimb de ...   22 Nov 2005, 10:55 AM
abis   Sigur ca e drobul de sare... A fost o initiativa a...   22 Nov 2005, 11:01 AM
Achernar   Deocamdata astfel de initiative le-ar putea fi fol...   23 Nov 2005, 10:52 AM
Leonardo   Hehe, discutia continua inca... De acord cu Abis,...   23 Nov 2005, 11:08 AM
Achernar   Mda. Placa veche : UE vs comunism (cu tot ce impli...   23 Nov 2005, 11:55 AM
Leonardo   sigur placa veche, intelectualista = nu avem cu ci...   23 Nov 2005, 12:17 PM
MIA   QUOTE (abis @ 22 Nov 2005, 11:01 AM) A fost o init...   23 Nov 2005, 12:33 PM
abis   QUOTE (MIA @ 23 Nov 2005, 12:33 PM) Cind naiba a f...   23 Nov 2005, 12:44 PM
Leonardo   MIA: "Ca parere pur personala : "impuner...   23 Nov 2005, 12:54 PM
MIA   QUOTE (abis @ 23 Nov 2005, 12:44 PM) QUOTE (MIA ...   23 Nov 2005, 12:58 PM
abis   QUOTE (MIA @ 23 Nov 2005, 12:58 PM) nici nu e inca...   23 Nov 2005, 01:03 PM
Achernar   QUOTE (Leonardo @ 23 Nov 2005, 12:17 PM) E foarte...   23 Nov 2005, 01:06 PM
Leonardo   Achernar: eu accept argumentele trecute, zi-le. C...   23 Nov 2005, 01:15 PM
Achernar   Argumente bazate pe trecut ... OK Absolut toate st...   23 Nov 2005, 01:37 PM
MIA   QUOTE (abis @ 23 Nov 2005, 01:03 PM) QUOTE (MIA ...   23 Nov 2005, 02:44 PM
Leonardo   "Din pacate se vor intrerupe foarte multe cir...   23 Nov 2005, 03:56 PM
Leonardo   Iata un articol interesant cu titlul 'de ce e ...   23 Nov 2005, 04:59 PM
Achernar   1. Care circuite ? Majoritatea circuitelor ce impl...   24 Nov 2005, 11:24 AM
Leonardo   1. Care circuite ? Majoritatea circuitelor ce impl...   24 Nov 2005, 01:43 PM
Achernar   OK. Problema e in studiu.   24 Nov 2005, 02:01 PM
Leonardo   astept cu interes si ar fi interesant o analiza po...   24 Nov 2005, 02:49 PM
Achernar   Presupun ca iti dai seama ca nu dispun nici de mij...   24 Nov 2005, 04:49 PM
Leonardo   sigur ca-mi dau seama ca n-ai cum pentru ca nimen...   24 Nov 2005, 05:43 PM
Achernar   Daca nu exista datele necesare pentru o analiza cr...   25 Nov 2005, 10:48 AM
MIA   QUOTE (Leonardo @ 24 Nov 2005, 02:49 PM) astept c...   25 Nov 2005, 11:06 AM
MIA   QUOTE Oricum n-ai ajunge la rezultate mai bune cu...   25 Nov 2005, 11:06 AM
Leonardo   eu cred ca pentru romani va fi un soc pozitiv, ii ...   25 Nov 2005, 11:14 AM
MIA   QUOTE (Leonardo @ 25 Nov 2005, 11:14 AM) Faptul ca...   25 Nov 2005, 11:24 AM
Achernar   Mda. Chestia e ca sperantele-s legate de ce 'n...   25 Nov 2005, 11:41 AM
Leonardo   Sperantele noastre sunt legate de pomeni pentru ca...   25 Nov 2005, 12:25 PM
alfa   Leonardo QUOTE . Sperantele mele stau in schimba...   25 Nov 2005, 03:37 PM
Leonardo   Cum adica ce avem de castigat ca nivel de civiliza...   25 Nov 2005, 04:27 PM
alfa   Leonardo QUOTE Cum adica ce avem de castigat ca ...   25 Nov 2005, 05:02 PM
abis   QUOTE (alfa @ 25 Nov 2005, 05:02 PM) Cum creste o ...   25 Nov 2005, 05:16 PM
MIA   QUOTE (Leonardo @ 25 Nov 2005, 04:27 PM) Vorbeam d...   25 Nov 2005, 05:23 PM
Leonardo   Sunt multe de spus, unele le-am mai spus deja dar ...   25 Nov 2005, 05:25 PM
abis   QUOTE (MIA @ 25 Nov 2005, 05:23 PM) Poate totusi a...   25 Nov 2005, 05:28 PM
MIA   QUOTE (Leonardo @ 25 Nov 2005, 05:25 PM) Pentru un...   25 Nov 2005, 05:32 PM
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