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mesaj 26 Feb 2013, 09:12 AM
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Buna ziua,

se face aici un curs online de homeopatie pt. incepatori, pt. cine este interesat. Cursul va incepe in 2-3 saptamani.
http://sanatate.findtalk.biz/t2564-curs-homeopatie

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mesaj 22 Mar 2013, 04:50 PM
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E clar ca Grabillion nu poate fi vindecat. smile.gif

Acum jucam pentru public, daca nu ii dam un raspuns, cine intra pe aici ar putea sa ia de bun ce spune el despre homeopatie si sa renunte la un tratament adecvat pentru cine stie ce mumb-jumbo super-ultra-diluat...


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mesaj 22 Mar 2013, 10:27 PM
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Un MEDIC englez care a decis sa studieze ulterior homeopatia, povesteste cum a ajuns el medic homeopat (facand un test cu homeopate la tratarea alergiei la praful de casa) si in plus mai povesteste si de studii clinice care arata ca homeopatia functioneaza

http://www.drjonathanhardy.co.uk/


Why I became a Homeopath

When I was a medical student at Southampton University we had to conduct some original research. I chose to do a trial of the Homeopathic treatment of house dust allergy, which causes sneezing, itchy eyes and sometimes asthma. It has been used as an excuse by teenagers for not making their beds! The trial showed a statistically significant benefit of the Homeopathic remedy compared to a placebo (blank pills with no active ingredient). Several of the patients experienced permanent relief of their symptoms of asthma. My supervisor, who is now a very well-known professor of Respiratory medicine, was amazed and impressed. The results were so conclusive that they were one of the reasons I chose to enter full-time Homeopathic practice shortly after qualifying in Medicine in 1984. I have never regretted doing so. My personal experience is that Homeopathy is a wonderful system of healing capable of relieving very significant suffering. One of its great advantages is that it can actually promote well-being. As well as relief of physical symptoms, patients will usually feel an increase in energy, improved mood and often say that they really feel once again like their old selves.

Is there evidence it works?

There is a growing body of evidence for the effectiveness of Homeopathic medicine. This includes randomised control trials (the gold standard of medical evidence). A total of 142 such trials in Homeopathy have been published in good quality scientific journals: positive effects have been reported in nearly half of these trials, showing benefit in a range of conditions including respiratory tract infections, rheumatic disease, allergic rhinitis, vertigo, fibromyalgia, osteoarthritis and sinusitis. Patient outcome studies have also shown the benefit of Homeopathy. Patient outcome studies are a form of evidence which NICE ( the National Institute for Clinical Excellence ) has highlighted as a key form of clinical evidence. In 2005 a patient outcome study at Bristol Homeopathic Hospital found 70% of 6,500 patients experienced improvement in their health: eczema, asthma, migraine, irritable bowel syndrome, arthritis, depression and chronic fatigue syndrome all improved.

E doar un medic cu facultate din cateva zeci si sute de mii din intreaga lume care lucreaza cu homeopatia si numai cu ea dupa ce -sa convins
de diferenta intre alopate si homeopate. A presupune ca toti acesti medici sunt niste cretini care dau placebo inseamna ca o doza mare de cretinism
trebuie sa fie prezenta in cel care presupune asa ceva.

Pe langa asta si in homeopatie se folosesc granule placebo care nu sunt impregnate nu nimic, spre deosebire de granulelel uzuale.
Aceste granule se dau la pacientii care primesc de fapt de doze rare, la cateva saptamani sau luni, dar fac parte din acei oameni care
cred ca daca iau ceva des sau zilnic le face bine. Ca urmare astfel de pacienti mai slabi la duh primesc granule neimpregnate cu nimic intre dozele cu remediu activ. Granula de placebo nu are nici un efect la vindecare, fiind numai zahar, si numai remediul potrivit si impregnat are un efect.

Granule din remediile gresite, nepotrivite sau prea puternice (dilutii foarte inalte sau inalte) au un efect negativ si pot agrava simptome sau chiar produce simptome noi pe care pacientul nu le-a mai avut niciodata. Asta ar primi si Abis daca ar avea curajul sa testeze pe pielea lui Glonoinum, dar cum stim ca e un las teoretician care se da mare numai in vorbe nu o face.

Desi pt. pacient granulele sunt identice in aspect si gust, efectul lor este pe cat se poate de diferit. Conteaza si dilutia folosita, si remediul folosit si intervalul la care se dau si uneori este o mare diferenta intre o granula supta si una dizolvata in apa !


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Grabillion   Curs Online Homeopatie Pt. Incepatori   26 Feb 2013, 09:12 AM
abis   Am crezut ca ai scris "curs online de inselat...   26 Feb 2013, 09:29 AM
Marduk   Daca homeopatia nu este medicina, atunci alopatia ...   26 Feb 2013, 10:15 AM
abis   Cei ce vorbesc despre homeopatie au obiceiul sa sp...   27 Feb 2013, 09:47 AM
Marduk   ALOPATĶE s. f. procedeu terapeutic opus homeopatie...   27 Feb 2013, 11:47 AM
abis   Terminologia medicala nu are acest cuvant, alopati...   27 Feb 2013, 03:51 PM
Marduk   "Terminologia medicala nu are acest cuvant...   27 Feb 2013, 04:11 PM
abis   Marduk, e simplu: iei produsul si il testezi rigur...   27 Feb 2013, 04:47 PM
Marduk   QUOTE(abis @ 27 Feb 2013, 04:47 PM) ...Da...   27 Feb 2013, 06:23 PM
abis   QUOTE(Marduk @ 27 Feb 2013, 06:23 PM) Exa...   28 Feb 2013, 10:03 AM
kikki dee   Abis cu tot respectul cuvenit te intreb : esti me...   28 Feb 2013, 12:10 PM
abis   QUOTE(kikki dee @ 28 Feb 2013, 12:10 PM) ...   28 Feb 2013, 01:06 PM
Marduk   QUOTE(abis @ 28 Feb 2013, 10:03 AM) QUOTE...   28 Feb 2013, 02:30 PM
abis   QUOTE(Marduk @ 28 Feb 2013, 02:30 PM) Nu ...   28 Feb 2013, 02:56 PM
Marduk   Tincturile sunt produse homeopate? veninurile sunt...   28 Feb 2013, 04:14 PM
abis   QUOTE(Marduk @ 28 Feb 2013, 04:14 PM) Tin...   1 Mar 2013, 09:41 AM
Grabillion   V-ati gasit sa vorbiti de ceva care nu intelegeti....   28 Feb 2013, 05:33 PM
abis   QUOTE(Grabillion @ 28 Feb 2013, 05:33 PM)...   1 Mar 2013, 10:07 AM
Marduk   QUOTE(abis @ 1 Mar 2013, 09:41 AM) ....Im...   1 Mar 2013, 06:40 PM
abis   QUOTE(Marduk @ 1 Mar 2013, 06:40 PM) Ok, ...   4 Mar 2013, 10:10 AM
exergy33   Nu am folosit niciodata produce homeopate si nici ...   1 Mar 2013, 08:46 PM
Grabillion   QUOTE(exergy33 @ 1 Mar 2013, 09:46 PM) Po...   2 Mar 2013, 04:04 PM
Erwin   ce păcat că noi nu putem vedea aura de l...   2 Mar 2013, 09:45 PM
kikki dee   Grabillion esti prea inversunat si ai inceput sa ...   4 Mar 2013, 09:45 AM
Marduk   QUOTE(abis @ 4 Mar 2013, 10:10 AM) ... Cu...   4 Mar 2013, 10:22 AM
abis   Imi pare rau, nu inteleg ce vrei sa spui   4 Mar 2013, 11:18 AM
Marduk   Ca homeopatia ar putea sa induca niste reactii la ...   4 Mar 2013, 01:58 PM
abis   Cum sa le induca? Ce fel de reactii?   4 Mar 2013, 02:13 PM
Marduk   Nu stiu, nu e domeniul meu, am zis doar "ar p...   4 Mar 2013, 03:18 PM
abis   Pai, din cunostintele mele de fizica si de chimie ...   4 Mar 2013, 05:10 PM
Marduk   Daca totul in lumea asta s-ar baza doar pe fizica ...   4 Mar 2013, 06:13 PM
abis   Da, clar, ai chef de vorbit pe langa subiect. Nu...   5 Mar 2013, 09:39 AM
Marduk   Argumentul este ca un individ, un om s-ar putea vi...   5 Mar 2013, 10:31 AM
abis   QUOTE(Marduk @ 5 Mar 2013, 10:31 AM) Argu...   5 Mar 2013, 10:44 AM
Grabillion   QUOTE(abis @ 5 Mar 2013, 11:44 AM) Asta s...   6 Mar 2013, 03:35 PM
abis   QUOTE(Grabillion @ 6 Mar 2013, 03:35 PM) ...   6 Mar 2013, 04:44 PM
Grabillion   Nu este asa cum crezi tu. Problema nu este la mine...   8 Mar 2013, 01:00 PM
abis   QUOTE(Grabillion @ 8 Mar 2013, 01:00 PM) ...   8 Mar 2013, 02:21 PM
exergy33   QUOTE(Grabillion @ 8 Mar 2013, 02:00 PM) ...   8 Mar 2013, 05:14 PM
Grabillion   Degeaba iti dau cazuri caci tot nu-ti vor schimba ...   11 Mar 2013, 06:17 PM
abis   QUOTE(Grabillion @ 11 Mar 2013, 06:17 PM)...   12 Mar 2013, 11:22 AM
Grabillion   Dupa cum am zis, scuze se gasesc la infinit si uso...   12 Mar 2013, 06:49 PM
abis   QUOTE(Grabillion @ 12 Mar 2013, 06:49 PM)...   13 Mar 2013, 11:27 AM
Grabillion   Cum ar fi daca capacitatea unui mecanic auto de a ...   18 Mar 2013, 07:51 PM
abis   QUOTE(Grabillion @ 18 Mar 2013, 07:51 PM)...   19 Mar 2013, 11:22 AM
Erwin   N-am urmărit topicul dar chiar așa, home...   13 Mar 2013, 01:43 AM
abis   RE: Curs Online Homeopatie Pt. Incepatori   15 Mar 2013, 09:53 AM
exergy33   QUOTELa orice medic alopat bun sansa de vindecare ...   19 Mar 2013, 12:55 PM
Grabillion   QUOTE(exergy33 @ 19 Mar 2013, 01:55 PM) A...   20 Mar 2013, 02:11 PM
abis   QUOTE(Grabillion @ 20 Mar 2013, 02:11 PM)...   20 Mar 2013, 04:05 PM
Grabillion   Mare prostie acest tip de test caci porneste de la...   21 Mar 2013, 12:58 PM
abis   QUOTE(Grabillion @ 21 Mar 2013, 12:58 PM)...   21 Mar 2013, 01:13 PM
mothman   Si daca vrea sa aprofundeze, poate Grabillion isi ...   20 Mar 2013, 05:34 PM
Erwin   Vă pierdeți vremea degeaba, e clar c...   22 Mar 2013, 04:35 PM
abis   E clar ca Grabillion nu poate fi vindecat. Acum ...   22 Mar 2013, 04:50 PM
Grabillion   Un MEDIC englez care a decis sa studieze ulterior ...   22 Mar 2013, 10:27 PM
abis   QUOTE(Grabillion @ 22 Mar 2013, 10:27 PM)...   25 Mar 2013, 10:57 AM
Erwin   Cred că medicul respectiv a ales homeopatia c...   23 Mar 2013, 01:49 AM
Grabillion   QUOTE(Erwin @ 23 Mar 2013, 02:49 AM) Cred...   23 Mar 2013, 12:12 PM
Erwin   "Diluții foarte īnalte" īnseamn...   26 Mar 2013, 02:17 AM
Grabillion   QUOTE(Erwin @ 26 Mar 2013, 03:17 AM) ...   26 Mar 2013, 09:38 AM
Grabillion   ...   26 Mar 2013, 09:50 AM
abis   QUOTE(Grabillion @ 26 Mar 2013, 09:38 AM)...   26 Mar 2013, 09:52 AM
Erwin   Eu nu sunt nici materialist, nici idealist. Chiar ...   26 Mar 2013, 11:10 PM
Grabillion   QUOTE(Erwin @ 27 Mar 2013, 12:10 AM) Eu n...   27 Mar 2013, 12:42 AM
Grabillion   Numai Cateva exemple miile existente din realitate...   27 Mar 2013, 08:39 AM
abis   Grabillion, fraudele sau efectele secundare nedori...   27 Mar 2013, 10:10 AM
mothman   Grabillion, esti singurul din discutia asta care r...   27 Mar 2013, 11:43 AM
Grabillion   QUOTE(mothman @ 27 Mar 2013, 12:43 PM) Gr...   28 Mar 2013, 12:45 AM
abis   Ia fii tu atent la chestia asta Īn Romānia (...   28 Mar 2013, 10:08 AM
Marduk   Desi topicul asta se dorea conform titlului ...   28 Mar 2013, 10:53 AM
Grabillion   QUOTE(Marduk @ 28 Mar 2013, 11:53 AM) Des...   28 Mar 2013, 07:33 PM
Grabillion   Abis draga, homeopatia este stiinta medicala care ...   28 Mar 2013, 07:19 PM
abis   QUOTE(Grabillion @ 28 Mar 2013, 08:19 PM)...   1 Apr 2013, 09:40 AM
Erwin   Nu ți-am răspuns atacurilor la persoan...   1 Apr 2013, 07:10 AM
exergy33   E foarte greu de purtat un dialog cu cineva care s...   5 Apr 2013, 10:54 AM
Rehael   QUOTE(exergy33 @ 5 Apr 2013, 11:54 AM) E ...   1 Jun 2013, 10:31 PM
abis   QUOTE(Rehael @ 1 Jun 2013, 11:31 PM) Nu t...   3 Jun 2013, 12:58 PM
gypsyhart   Un articol interesant (in 3 parti), lung, care mer...   5 Apr 2013, 10:26 PM
Erwin   Chiar dacă cele de mai sus sunt adevărat...   7 Apr 2013, 12:57 PM
Grabillion   QUOTE(Erwin @ 7 Apr 2013, 01:57 PM) Chiar...   22 May 2013, 08:57 PM
abis   QUOTE(Grabillion @ 22 May 2013, 09:57 PM)...   23 May 2013, 09:53 AM
exergy33   QUOTE(Grabillion @ 22 May 2013, 09:57 PM)...   3 Jun 2013, 12:09 PM
Erwin   pilulele alea pe care ne zicea să le lu...   23 May 2013, 04:21 PM
Grabillion   QUOTE(Erwin @ 23 May 2013, 05:21 PM) pilu...   29 May 2013, 11:16 PM
abis   QUOTE(Grabillion @ 30 May 2013, 12:16 AM)...   30 May 2013, 09:21 AM
Grabillion   QUOTE(abis @ 30 May 2013, 09:21 AM) Serio...   31 May 2013, 12:16 AM
abis   QUOTE(Grabillion @ 31 May 2013, 01:16 AM)...   31 May 2013, 01:07 PM
mothman   Homeopathy is witchcraft, say doctors Homeopathy i...   23 May 2013, 07:02 PM
exergy33   Si de la ce distanta zici ca-ti reuseste chestia a...   31 May 2013, 05:18 AM
Marduk   QUOTE(Grabillion @ 31 May 2013, 01:16 AM)...   31 May 2013, 10:42 AM
Grabillion   QUOTE(Marduk @ 31 May 2013, 10:42 AM) Mon...   1 Jun 2013, 01:52 AM
abis   QUOTE(Grabillion @ 1 Jun 2013, 02:52 AM) ...   3 Jun 2013, 10:46 AM
Erwin   Grabillion, ți-am spus că nu vorbesc din...   31 May 2013, 04:56 PM
Grabillion   QUOTE(Erwin @ 31 May 2013, 04:56 PM) Grab...   1 Jun 2013, 02:24 AM
Erwin   S-a făcut deja, Rehael! D-aia umblă ...   1 Jun 2013, 11:18 PM
Rehael   QUOTE(Erwin @ 2 Jun 2013, 12:18 AM) S-a f...   1 Jun 2013, 11:38 PM
mothman   Grabillion, sa inteleg ca in cazul in care zilele ...   3 Jun 2013, 01:39 PM
Marduk   QUOTE(Grabillion @ 1 Jun 2013, 02:52 AM) ...   3 Jun 2013, 01:48 PM
abis   QUOTE(Marduk @ 3 Jun 2013, 02:48 PM) cum ...   3 Jun 2013, 03:16 PM
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