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> Rudolf Hess, predictiile unui nebun ???
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mesaj 11 Dec 2010, 02:17 PM
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Walter Richard Rudolf Hess, to be more accurate:



Al treilea personaj important in ierarhia hitlerista, singurul mason din ea.
Acum cateva zile am ascultat la o prezentare in care s-a spus ca Hess ar fi declarat in timpul procesului de la Nurnberg, cum ca intregul razboi mondial (ww1+ww2) a fost pus la cale de forte extraterestre ce urmareau un anumit scop. Prezentarea era lacunara, iar pe net gasesc variante in care se speculeaza ca cele mai multe din declaratiile lui Hess au ramas clasificate.

Intreg comportamentul lui Hess, contradictoriu si ambiguu, lasa loc multor interpretari.
Sigur ca varianta de a il declara nebun era cea mai convenabila si tocmai de aceea eu ma indoiesc de autenticitatea ei.
Motivele care au facut ca Hess sa nu fie niciodata eliberat (imi pare ca singurul in aceasta situatie) sunt iarasi temeiuri care alimenteaza o anumita teorie.

Nebunii nu prea fac puscarie...sfarsec prin azile de cele mai multe ori.
Nici nu sunt tinuti in izolare, discursul lor fiind socotit lipsit de credibilitate.

So, stie cineva mai mult despre acest caz ??..doriti sa comentam ??

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TT, las-o cum a cazut...Admit ca subiectul ar putea fi unul de discutii cu ceva argumente pro si contra. Intre ele discursul public antimasonic a lui Hess sustinut la un moment dat, ceea ce nu inseamna nimic intr-un regim totalitar. Iti repet ca aici nu despre asta vorbim. Masonii, bunul meu TTu, au semne si gesturi care le permit sa se recunoasca intre ei si care le deschid direct calea spre un altfel de comunicare. ...si ca sa incheiem cu asta, Hess si-a ascultat sentinta in pozitia masonica a semnului de fidelitate.

Hess nu a plecat de nebun in Scotia si nici nu s-a parasutat (pentru prima data in viata) in vreun loc necunoscut. Urmarea sa ia legatura cu Golden Dawn, o alta organizatie centrifuga de sorginte francmasonica...la fel ca NSDAP-ul (hai ca aici ti-am dat munitie sa ai cu ce trage)

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Rudolph Hess was captured in 1941 in Scotland during a solo flight while on a mission to meet with Golden Dawn figure The Duke of Hamilton trying to arrange for some sort of peace settlement. The Golden Dawn is an esoteric Order founded in England in the 1880's. The Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn was originally heavily influenced by Freemasonry. Its three founding members were prominent Masonic figures and early members of the first Masonic lodge of research Quatuor Coronati Lodge No. 2076. Also with the the Golden Dawn at the time was none other than Aleister Crowley, who was actively involved with British Intelligence M.I. 5 which had it's own official Occult Division/Department.Crowley and the Golden Dawn, O.T.O., Theosophy crowd were involved with a number of key Nazi Occult figures.


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Like Adolf Hitler, Hess always felt strongly attracted by the occult. He volunteered for the army as soon as World War I began, and soon was placed as officer in an infantry regiment. During the war Hess was wounded twice. When the war ended he went to Munich and joined the Thule Society. He was only 22.

Hess was one of the hundreds of war veterans recruited in Munich by Freemason Baron von Sebottendorf [1] to join the Freikorps. Hess joined the Freikorps and became an expert street fighter helping them in getting the leftist revolutionaries out of Munich.



exergy33, daaa, toata povestea asta este extrem de suspecta..Vreau sa zic asta cu razboaiele, cu motivatiile lor, cu ceea ce ne-a ramas despre ele. Cele mai multe din ratiunile invocate nu au nicio logica. Hitler insusi e un tip bizar care n-ar fi putut sa aiba o asemenea ascensiune in conjunctura de atunci...Cineva, sau ceva l-a ajutat...

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QUOTE(The Dude @ 14 Dec 2010, 03:55 PM) *
Hess nu a plecat de nebun in Scotia si nici nu s-a parasutat (pentru prima data in viata) in vreun loc necunoscut. Urmarea sa ia legatura cu Golden Dawn

corect, la asta vroiam sa ajungem. de fapt a fost atras rolleyes.gif


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The Dude   Rudolf Hess   11 Dec 2010, 02:17 PM
The Dude   Interesant imi pare si momentul in care survin une...   12 Dec 2010, 09:14 AM
Marduk   Nu stiam ca Hess a avut legaturi cu masoneria sau ...   12 Dec 2010, 09:50 AM
The Dude   Sigur ca nazismul a avut parti bune...era un curen...   12 Dec 2010, 11:09 AM
exergy33   QUOTE(The Dude @ 12 Dec 2010, 01:09 PM) ...   13 Dec 2010, 04:29 PM
Marduk   QUOTE(The Dude @ 12 Dec 2010, 11:09 AM) Q...   12 Dec 2010, 11:45 AM
March   QUOTE(The Dude @ 11 Dec 2010, 04:17 PM) W...   12 Dec 2010, 11:49 AM
The Dude   QUOTE(March @ 12 Dec 2010, 12:49 PM) Al t...   12 Dec 2010, 08:09 PM
Cla   Dupa câte stiu, Hess a sters-o în Anglia. Dar nu t...   12 Dec 2010, 12:46 PM
March   QUOTE(Cla @ 12 Dec 2010, 02:46 PM) Dupa c...   12 Dec 2010, 01:02 PM
Rovaniemi   QUOTE(Cla @ 12 Dec 2010, 12:46 PM) Dar nu...   12 Dec 2010, 03:16 PM
Marduk   Ce nu ati auzit de familia Rothschild si multi alt...   12 Dec 2010, 04:08 PM
Rovaniemi   Una la mînă, familia rotschild nu era america...   12 Dec 2010, 04:53 PM
Marduk   QUOTE(Rovaniemi @ 12 Dec 2010, 04:53 PM) ...   12 Dec 2010, 05:08 PM
Rovaniemi   QUOTE(Marduk @ 12 Dec 2010, 05:08 PM) cin...   12 Dec 2010, 07:06 PM
The Dude   Nu, nu discutam de afirmatia colaterala a lui Cla....   12 Dec 2010, 07:58 PM
Rovaniemi   Dacă vii și omori în stilul ăsta di...   12 Dec 2010, 09:10 PM
The Dude   QUOTECount me out of this ... ...un mare castig p...   13 Dec 2010, 08:25 AM
Marduk   QUOTE(The Dude @ 12 Dec 2010, 07:58 PM) D...   13 Dec 2010, 09:43 AM
The Dude   QUOTE(Marduk @ 13 Dec 2010, 10:43 AM) mul...   13 Dec 2010, 11:27 AM
turbo trabant   QUOTE(The Dude @ 13 Dec 2010, 12:27 PM) F...   13 Dec 2010, 11:41 AM
The Dude   QUOTE(turbo trabant @ 13 Dec 2010, 12:41 ...   13 Dec 2010, 12:27 PM
turbo trabant   QUOTE(The Dude @ 13 Dec 2010, 01:27 PM) M...   13 Dec 2010, 12:33 PM
The Dude   Nu Marduk...nu vorbim aici de ezoterismul Ordinulu...   13 Dec 2010, 10:15 AM
turbo trabant   QUOTE(The Dude @ 13 Dec 2010, 11:15 AM) H...   13 Dec 2010, 10:47 AM
little1   Poate c-ar trebui sa insiri aici cateva din specul...   13 Dec 2010, 10:39 AM
The Dude   ...sigur ca totul se leaga..in unele minti...acolo...   13 Dec 2010, 11:12 AM
little1   http://ironsky.net/ mm?   13 Dec 2010, 02:03 PM
Cla   @ March, Rovaniemi: Prof. A. Sutton - Wall Street ...   13 Dec 2010, 02:22 PM
The Dude   Varză tt-ule, adica asa cum ar veni in banii ...   13 Dec 2010, 03:14 PM
March   QUOTE(The Dude @ 13 Dec 2010, 05:14 PM) I...   13 Dec 2010, 04:42 PM
turbo trabant   QUOTE(The Dude @ 13 Dec 2010, 04:14 PM) e...   13 Dec 2010, 05:02 PM
The Dude   TT, las-o cum a cazut...Admit ca subiectul ar pute...   14 Dec 2010, 02:55 PM
turbo trabant   QUOTE(The Dude @ 14 Dec 2010, 03:55 PM) H...   14 Dec 2010, 06:12 PM
The Dude   QUOTEA few months later Hess became Hitler's p...   14 Dec 2010, 03:04 PM
The Dude   QUOTEThe Thule Gesellschaft was founded in 1919 by...   14 Dec 2010, 03:17 PM
The Dude   QUOTEThe Legacy of Rudolf Hess Mark Weber On the...   14 Dec 2010, 03:20 PM
The Dude   QUOTENothing better points up the essential injust...   14 Dec 2010, 03:28 PM
kumarbi   oficial, Hess a stat in puscarie pana la capatul s...   14 Dec 2010, 03:56 PM
The Dude   ...sau si-a facut niste socoteli. Asadar, pana la ...   15 Dec 2010, 09:08 AM
turbo trabant   QUOTE(The Dude @ 15 Dec 2010, 10:08 AM) A...   15 Dec 2010, 01:42 PM
The Dude   Intr-o alta varianta la fel de fantezista, se suge...   15 Dec 2010, 09:56 AM
little1   QUOTE(The Dude @ 15 Dec 2010, 11:56 AM) I...   15 Dec 2010, 12:02 PM
The Dude   QUOTE(little1 @ 15 Dec 2010, 01:02 PM) .....   15 Dec 2010, 01:15 PM
exergy33   QUOTE(The Dude @ 15 Dec 2010, 11:56 AM) I...   15 Dec 2010, 12:59 PM
The Dude   QUOTE(exergy33 @ 15 Dec 2010, 01:59 PM) M...   15 Dec 2010, 02:01 PM
cocosel   Rudolf Hess este un personaj cu adevarat controver...   15 Dec 2010, 06:03 PM
little1   QUOTE(cocosel @ 15 Dec 2010, 08:03 PM) Ru...   15 Dec 2010, 11:31 PM
The Dude   QUOTE(cocosel @ 15 Dec 2010, 07:03 PM) Ac...   16 Dec 2010, 09:01 AM
cocosel   QUOTECoco, nu fi nashpa...daca o iei asa atlantii ...   16 Dec 2010, 06:32 PM
March   QUOTE(cocosel @ 16 Dec 2010, 08:32 PM) Ai...   16 Dec 2010, 06:58 PM
cocosel   QUOTE(March @ 16 Dec 2010, 06:58 PM) @ Co...   16 Dec 2010, 07:35 PM
March   QUOTE(cocosel @ 16 Dec 2010, 09:35 PM) Ma...   16 Dec 2010, 07:39 PM
little1   QUOTE(The Dude @ 16 Dec 2010, 11:01 AM) L...   16 Dec 2010, 10:59 PM
The Dude   QUOTENu cumva invazia a avut deja loc ???. Nu am ...   15 Dec 2010, 10:05 AM
Marduk   QUOTE(The Dude @ 15 Dec 2010, 09:08 AM) ....   15 Dec 2010, 10:33 AM
Blakut   1. Ce cauta topicul asta la dincolo de ratiune? Er...   17 Dec 2010, 12:41 AM
The Dude   Blackut, citeste topicul mai inainte sa faci remar...   17 Dec 2010, 11:23 AM
little1   QUOTE...poate pentru tine. Observatii care au cat ...   17 Dec 2010, 01:04 PM
The Dude   QUOTE(little1 @ 17 Dec 2010, 02:04 PM) Me...   18 Dec 2010, 06:37 PM
The Dude   QUOTEAsa ca Dude erai mai inspirat daca incepeam d...   17 Dec 2010, 11:33 AM
March   Alo ! Chibitii ! Lasa-ti omu' sa-si ex...   17 Dec 2010, 12:29 PM
The Dude   ...chiar si asa Hess nu lasa multe alte posibilita...   19 Dec 2010, 03:00 PM
The Dude   Urmeaza un serial in mai multe episoade despre dat...   19 Dec 2010, 03:03 PM
The Dude   QUOTEMulti istorici incearca sa raspunda la intreb...   19 Dec 2010, 03:05 PM
The Dude   QUOTEIn 1990, colonelul Igor Frelin din KGB a facu...   19 Dec 2010, 03:08 PM
The Dude   QUOTEIpoteza "dublurii" Doi cercetator...   19 Dec 2010, 03:11 PM
Marduk   Ok, desi am decis sa nu deranjez acest topic cu pa...   19 Dec 2010, 05:51 PM
The Dude   Marduk, welcome aboard Hai sa o spun altfel. Ma...   20 Dec 2010, 09:26 AM
turbo trabant   QUOTE(The Dude @ 20 Dec 2010, 10:26 AM) U...   20 Dec 2010, 05:49 PM
The Dude   QUOTE(turbo trabant @ 20 Dec 2010, 06:49 ...   21 Dec 2010, 12:16 PM
turbo trabant   QUOTE(The Dude @ 21 Dec 2010, 01:16 PM) ....   21 Dec 2010, 12:28 PM
Blakut   QUOTEUn scenariu posibil este sa declansez un conf...   20 Dec 2010, 05:23 PM
March   Unde-i ingropat Hess ? Cine sunt urmasii lui ?   21 Dec 2010, 12:19 PM
The Dude   QUOTE(March @ 21 Dec 2010, 01:19 PM) Unde...   28 Dec 2010, 09:46 PM
The Dude   QUOTE(March @ 21 Dec 2010, 01:19 PM) Unde...   29 Dec 2010, 03:19 PM
Marduk   QUOTE(turbo trabant @ 20 Dec 2010, 05:49 ...   21 Dec 2010, 01:35 PM
Marduk   QUOTE(The Dude @ 20 Dec 2010, 09:26 AM) C...   21 Dec 2010, 01:51 PM
The Dude   QUOTE...daca tu spui, nu pot decat sa ma inclin re...   22 Dec 2010, 10:28 AM
The Dude   Daaaa, stiu cum suna...nu e nevoie de interventii ...   22 Dec 2010, 12:39 PM
The Dude   Acum declaratiile lui Hess: "I said before ...   28 Dec 2010, 09:43 PM
The Dude   "A Tunisian medical orderly, Abdallah Melaouh...   28 Dec 2010, 09:49 PM
The Dude   ...pentru cei care au nimerit in mijlocul topiculu...   28 Dec 2010, 09:55 PM
turbo trabant   QUOTE(The Dude @ 28 Dec 2010, 10:55 PM) I...   29 Dec 2010, 11:27 AM
The Dude   QUOTE(turbo trabant @ 29 Dec 2010, 12:27 ...   29 Dec 2010, 03:07 PM
turbo trabant   QUOTE(The Dude @ 29 Dec 2010, 04:07 PM) c...   29 Dec 2010, 03:23 PM
The Dude   Richard Arnold-Baker (un aristocrat german pe nume...   28 Dec 2010, 09:58 PM
little1   edit: change of heart   28 Dec 2010, 11:48 PM
The Dude   ...very clever ...exista o lista lunga de aparate ...   29 Dec 2010, 03:29 PM
turbo trabant   QUOTE(The Dude @ 29 Dec 2010, 04:29 PM) ....   29 Dec 2010, 03:34 PM
The Dude   ...dupa cum exista o sumedenie de termeni pentru c...   29 Dec 2010, 03:43 PM
The Dude   Rudolf Hess a fost diagnosticat oficial ca “hypoch...   29 Dec 2010, 05:32 PM
The Dude   "If our readers have ever read anything on ch...   29 Dec 2010, 05:40 PM
The Dude   "As if these events were not already incredib...   29 Dec 2010, 05:55 PM
The Dude   ..cu mentiunea ca Peterson era un apropiat al duce...   29 Dec 2010, 06:10 PM
The Dude   "This would seem to contradict the commonly h...   29 Dec 2010, 06:16 PM
The Dude   ....paralela dintre fuga lui Hess si cea a formato...   29 Dec 2010, 06:27 PM
The Dude   "It is unclear beyond this point as to what b...   29 Dec 2010, 06:33 PM
The Dude   "The fact that the Lebor Feasa Runda (Book of...   29 Dec 2010, 06:39 PM
The Dude   Among the individuals brought in to interrogate hi...   29 Dec 2010, 06:45 PM
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