Rudolf Hess, predictiile unui nebun ??? Optiuni

[The Dude]

Walter Richard Rudolf Hess, to be more accurate:



Al treilea personaj important in ierarhia hitlerista, singurul mason din ea.
Acum cateva zile am ascultat la o prezentare in care s-a spus ca Hess ar fi declarat in timpul procesului de la Nurnberg, cum ca intregul razboi mondial (ww1+ww2) a fost pus la cale de forte extraterestre ce urmareau un anumit scop. Prezentarea era lacunara, iar pe net gasesc variante in care se speculeaza ca cele mai multe din declaratiile lui Hess au ramas clasificate.

Intreg comportamentul lui Hess, contradictoriu si ambiguu, lasa loc multor interpretari.
Sigur ca varianta de a il declara nebun era cea mai convenabila si tocmai de aceea eu ma indoiesc de autenticitatea ei.
Motivele care au facut ca Hess sa nu fie niciodata eliberat (imi pare ca singurul in aceasta situatie) sunt iarasi temeiuri care alimenteaza o anumita teorie.

Nebunii nu prea fac puscarie...sfarsec prin azile de cele mai multe ori.
Nici nu sunt tinuti in izolare, discursul lor fiind socotit lipsit de credibilitate.

So, stie cineva mai mult despre acest caz ??..doriti sa comentam ??

Acest topic a fost editat de The Dude: 11 Dec 2010, 02:20 PM

[The Dude]

Nothing better points up the essential injustice of the Nuremberg process than the court's treatment of Rudolf Hess.

In fact, the Allied case against Hess was weak. The Führer had kept his deputy in the dark about his foreign policy and military decisions. It was clearly established at Nuremberg that Hess had not been present at any of the meetings at which Hitler discussed his military plans. [12] And, of course, he could not be held responsible for German actions that took place after his flight to Britain, including those carried out during the campaign against the Soviet Union.

Nevertheless, the Tribunal declared Hess guilty of "crimes against peace" ("planning and preparation of aggressive war") and of "conspiracy" with other German leaders to commit the alleged crimes, but innocent of "war crimes" and "crimes against humanity."

No reputable historian today believes the Nuremberg charge that Hess was guilty of "crimes against peace."

The eminent British historian Professor A. J. P. Taylor summed up the injustice of the Hess case in a 1969 statement: [15]

Hess came to this country in 1941 as an ambassador of peace. He came with the ... intention of restoring peace between Great Britain and Germany.

He acted in good faith. He fell into our hands and was quite unjustly treated as a prisoner of war. After the war, we could have released him.

No crime has ever been proven against Hess ... As far as the records show, he was never at even one of the secret discussions at which Hitler explained his war plans.

He was of course a leading member of the Nazi Party. But he was no more guilty than any other Nazi or, if you wish, any other German. All the Nazis, all the Germans, were carrying on the war. But they were not all condemned because of this.


That Rudolf Hess -- the only one at Nuremberg who had risked his life for peace -- was found guilty of "crimes against peace" was certainly the Tribunal's most ironic perversion of justice.

...numai un mason putea actiona asa. Dar sa lasam masoneria pentru alte discutii si sa revenim la cateva consideratii. Daca afirmatiile lui Hess, din perioada sa de confuzie mentala ar fi adevarate, atunci totul capata coerenta. Forte din alta lume au decis masacrul. Hess, o constinta curata, e angrenat in acest mecanism si cauta o solutie disperata de a impiedica proiectul...ma rog derularile lui cele mai periculoase..
Actiunea sa, se desfasoara in secret, rapid si direct...Fusese insa anticipata si deci ramane fara efect. Ceea ce trebuia sa se intample s-a intamplat..
Dar de ce ??? Ca Hess e un om care nu se impaca cu deciziile luate de alte entitati e reconfirmat si prin actul de denuntare la care el recurge in ultima instanta cu toate riscurile..intre care acela de a fi declarat nebun. Mie imi pare plauzibil...mult mai plauzibil decat motivele subtiri pentru care au murit 100 de milioane de oamnei in cele doua conflagratii...So who is Rudolf Hess ???

Acest topic a fost editat de The Dude: 14 Dec 2010, 03:42 PM