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mesaj 11 Jan 2010, 01:06 PM
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Pornind de aici:

http://www.hotnews.ro/stiri-opinii-6802644...i-intrebari.htm

exista asa ceva? crestinii ar trebui sa raspunda cu aceiasi moneda?

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mesaj 12 Jan 2010, 08:54 AM
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QUOTE(jet li @ 11 Jan 2010, 10:12 PM) *
Esti de acord ca un om bun e un om bun, indiferent de religia din care i se pare ca face parte ?

Un "om bun" nu poate fi o entitate inchisa, un pustnic perfect, un "om bun" trebuie sa interactioneze cu entitatile cel inconjoara, or tocmai aceasta interactiune "strica" omul bun. Este nevoit sa faca compromisuri, sa accepte reguli, o societate care poate nu reprezinta idealul sau, asa omul bun devine viciat si in loc sa schimbe lumea, societatea, pana la urma sfarseste prin a fi schimbat de societate. Asa s-a intamplat cu toti cei care au dorit sa schimbe aceasta lume, au lasat in urma lor doar idei, concepte pe care lumea le-a imbratisat sau nu, dar pe care sigur le-a schimbat in beneficiul celor puternici. Mitul omului bun a murit odata cu Isus omul.

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mesaj 12 Jan 2010, 09:33 AM
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Mark Twain in "The mysterious stranger":

"Oh, it's true. I know your race. It is made up of sheep. It is governed by minorities, seldom or never by majorities. It suppresses its feelings and its beliefs and follows the handful that makes the most noise. Sometimes the noisy handful is right, sometimes wrong; but no matter, the crowd follows it. The vast majority of the race, whether savage or civilized, are secretly kind-hearted and shrink from inflicting pain, but in the presence of the aggressive and pitiless minority they don't dare to assert themselves. Think of it! One kind-hearted creature spies upon another, and sees to it that he loyally helps in iniquities which revolt both of them. Speaking as an expert, I know that ninety-nine out of a hundred of your race were strongly against the killing of witches when that foolishness was first agitated by a handful of pious lunatics in the long ago. And I know that even to-day, after ages of transmitted prejudice and silly teaching, only one person in twenty puts any real heart into the harrying of a witch. And yet apparently everybody hates witches and wants them killed. Some day a handful will rise up on the other side and make the most noise—perhaps even a single daring man with a big voice and a determined front will do it—and in a week all the sheep will wheel and follow him, and witch-hunting will come to a sudden end."

"It is some more Moral Sense. The proprietors are rich, and very holy; but the wage they pay to these poor brothers and sisters of theirs is only enough to keep them from dropping dead with hunger. The work-hours are fourteen per day, winter and summer—from six in the morning till eight at night—little children and all. And they walk to and from the pigsties which they inhabit—four miles each way, through mud and slush, rain, snow, sleet, and storm, daily, year in and year out. They get four hours of sleep. They kennel together, three families in a room, in unimaginable filth and stench; and disease comes, and they die off like flies. Have they committed a crime, these mangy things? No. What have they done, that they are punished so? Nothing at all, except getting themselves born into your foolish race. You have seen how they treat a misdoer there in the jail; now you see how they treat the innocent and the worthy. Is your race logical? Are these ill-smelling innocents better off than that heretic? Indeed, no; his punishment is trivial compared with theirs. They broke him on the wheel and smashed him to rags and pulp after we left, and he is dead now, and free of your precious race; but these poor slaves here—why, they have been dying for years, and some of them will not escape from life for years to come. It is the Moral Sense which teaches the factory proprietors the difference between right and wrong—you perceive the result. They think themselves better than dogs. Ah, you are such an illogical, unreasoning race! And paltry—oh, unspeakably!"

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turbo trabant   Persecutia Crestinilor   11 Jan 2010, 01:06 PM
Marduk   cand sarbi au ripostat fata de musulmani, toate de...   11 Jan 2010, 04:23 PM
mutulica   QUOTE(turbo trabant @ 11 Jan 2010, 03:06 ...   11 Jan 2010, 06:38 PM
turbo trabant   QUOTE(mutulica @ 11 Jan 2010, 07:38 PM) c...   11 Jan 2010, 06:43 PM
mutulica   QUOTE(turbo trabant @ 11 Jan 2010, 08:43 ...   11 Jan 2010, 06:53 PM
turbo trabant   QUOTE(mutulica @ 11 Jan 2010, 07:53 PM) d...   11 Jan 2010, 06:58 PM
ben_gal   QUOTE(mutulica @ 11 Jan 2010, 07:38 PM) c...   22 Apr 2010, 02:42 AM
mutulica   un idiot ... malraux parca... spunea ca secolul no...   11 Jan 2010, 07:04 PM
abis   QUOTE(mutulica @ 11 Jan 2010, 07:04 PM) u...   12 Jan 2010, 10:59 AM
turbo trabant   motto -ul lor: e ok sa omori un crestin sau evreu ...   11 Jan 2010, 07:08 PM
jet li   Toate religiile organizate sunt la fel, toate ...   11 Jan 2010, 07:46 PM
ben_gal   QUOTE(jet li @ 11 Jan 2010, 08:46 PM) Ati...   22 Apr 2010, 02:51 AM
Marduk   QUOTE(turbo trabant @ 11 Jan 2010, 06:43 ...   11 Jan 2010, 08:16 PM
jet li   Stiu si despre eunuci. De ce ramai la crestini imp...   11 Jan 2010, 10:12 PM
Marduk   QUOTE(jet li @ 11 Jan 2010, 10:12 PM) Est...   12 Jan 2010, 08:54 AM
jet li   Mark Twain in "The mysterious stranger":...   12 Jan 2010, 09:33 AM
Marduk   Salut Abis, bine ai revenit. Jet li, nu prea ma i...   12 Jan 2010, 11:28 AM
turbo trabant   cand am deschis acest topic nu am facut-o pentru u...   12 Jan 2010, 11:30 AM
Marduk   corect tema nu este noua, trebuie sa recunoastem c...   12 Jan 2010, 11:55 AM
Marduk   un exemplu cat se poate de clar la ceea ce spuneam...   12 Jan 2010, 12:43 PM
turbo trabant   http://voxpublica.realitatea.net/life/desp...ropa-...   14 Jan 2010, 12:30 PM
Marduk   biserica catolica nu vrea sa deschida o disputa cu...   14 Jan 2010, 01:23 PM
turbo trabant   aia casapiti nu sunt numai catolici. dar sssshht s...   14 Jan 2010, 01:59 PM
Marduk   nu stiu cat ar fi de benefic pentru crestinism sau...   14 Jan 2010, 02:05 PM
Cla   Marduk, rana asta o deschid musulmanii însisi. Mi-...   14 Jan 2010, 02:13 PM
turbo trabant   nu is numai astia cu semiluna. made in china: ht...   14 Jan 2010, 02:22 PM
Marduk   noroc cu ortodocsi care nu vad cu ochi buni nicio ...   14 Jan 2010, 02:30 PM
turbo trabant   500 de crestini masacrati in Nigeria. Hillary Clin...   9 Mar 2010, 05:48 PM
abis   Link: In luna septembrie a anului trecut, circa 3...   9 Mar 2010, 06:02 PM
turbo trabant   zona aia este "toleranta" rau. ma mir ce...   9 Mar 2010, 06:28 PM
abis   QUOTE(turbo trabant @ 9 Mar 2010, 06:28 P...   10 Mar 2010, 11:07 AM
turbo trabant   QUOTE(abis @ 10 Mar 2010, 12:07 PM) uite ...   10 Mar 2010, 01:13 PM
Marduk   "Nigeria este zguduita de violentele dintre c...   9 Mar 2010, 07:56 PM
Marduk   O stire pe care am citit-o azi zice ca de fapt num...   10 Mar 2010, 08:51 AM
Blakut   QUOTENu stiu pe ce se bazeaza impresia ta ca mass-...   10 Mar 2010, 01:05 PM
Taunul   QUOTE(Blakut @ 10 Mar 2010, 02:05 PM) Ba ...   6 Aug 2010, 08:31 AM
Marduk   QUOTE(abis @ 10 Mar 2010, 11:07 AM) mass-...   10 Mar 2010, 02:24 PM
Marduk   Aici trebuia postata aceasta stire   28 Mar 2010, 09:37 AM
Marduk   Ca tot vorbim de persecutarea crestinilor, uite ca...   29 Mar 2010, 07:49 AM
turbo trabant   QUOTE(Marduk @ 29 Mar 2010, 07:49 AM) Ca ...   31 Mar 2010, 12:40 PM
abis   Pai chiar din prima fraza: The Lord's Resista...   31 Mar 2010, 12:47 PM
Cla   Da, am auzit si vazut castrati. E foarte fain sa-i...   22 Apr 2010, 04:44 AM
Cla   QUOTE(Cla @ 22 Apr 2010, 04:44 AM) Da, am...   22 Apr 2010, 04:48 AM
ben_gal   QUOTE(Cla @ 22 Apr 2010, 05:44 AM) Da, am...   22 Apr 2010, 11:41 AM
Marduk   QUOTE(ben_gal @ 22 Apr 2010, 03:51 AM) QU...   22 Apr 2010, 04:52 PM
Cucu Mucu   http://tomisthecat.wordpress.com/2010/05/1...oporu...   16 May 2010, 09:57 PM
Marduk   Papa face declaratii in legatura cu persecutia cre...   7 Jun 2010, 07:08 AM
abis   QUOTE(Marduk @ 7 Jun 2010, 08:08 AM) Papa...   9 Jun 2010, 03:14 PM
Taunul   QUOTE(abis @ 9 Jun 2010, 04:14 PM) Ce spu...   27 Jul 2010, 05:56 AM
The Dude   Mai eu am vazut recent niste filme (Agora era doar...   9 Jun 2010, 02:23 PM
Marduk   QUOTE(The Dude @ 9 Jun 2010, 03:23 PM) .....   9 Jun 2010, 02:59 PM
The Dude   ...nu, pe bune, vezi filmul asta AGORA...are o pov...   9 Jun 2010, 03:13 PM
The Dude   sorry.....greseala de editare   9 Jun 2010, 03:13 PM
Marduk   QUOTE(The Dude @ 9 Jun 2010, 04:13 PM) In...   9 Jun 2010, 03:27 PM
The Dude   Incearca sa vezi filmul Marduk. Merita. E de calit...   10 Jun 2010, 08:10 AM
turbo trabant   QUOTE(The Dude @ 10 Jun 2010, 08:10 AM) P...   27 Jul 2010, 10:39 AM
Minerval   Interesant titlul topicului.. si parca striga sfid...   13 Jul 2010, 02:26 AM
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March   Bravo ! Vezi ce facila e metoda copy-paste ...   27 Jul 2010, 02:41 PM
Taunul   QUOTE(turbo trabant @ 11 Jan 2010, 02:06 ...   6 Aug 2010, 06:39 AM
abis   QUOTE(Taunul @ 6 Aug 2010, 07:39 AM) De 1...   6 Aug 2010, 09:28 AM
turbo trabant   QUOTE(Taunul @ 6 Aug 2010, 06:39 AM) In E...   6 Aug 2010, 10:39 AM
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