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mesaj 12 Oct 2005, 07:33 PM
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Ma gandeam zilele acestea cat de greu este pentru un om in zilele noastre sa isi traiasca viata, sa creasca un copil si asa mai departe. Privind o mama cat ii este de greu sa creasca un copil, indiferent ca are pampersi, jucarii, cuptor cu microunde, telefon mobil si asa mai departe, intrebarea care imi vine este:

OMUL CAVERNELOR CUM A SUPRAVIETUIT ?

Cum comunica el cu semenii sai intr-o lume fara internet, fara fax, fara telefoane mobile si internet ?

Ce manca el in conditiile in care nu existau fast-food-uri, livrari la domiciliu si room-service ?

Cum a fost posibila supravietuirea lui intr-o lume ostila, intr-o lume in care lupta pentru supravietuire in fiecare zi


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mesaj 21 Oct 2005, 10:31 AM
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Pune si tu un link catre articolul respectiv. Altfel cum sa-l comentam?


Am priceput.

Trebuie sa caut sa vad unde l-am facut "save".

Pina una alta am sa dau alte doua linkuri.

http://198.144.2.125/Roman/Roman.htm
Acesta este un link care prezinta echipamentele militare din diferite perioade istorice.Eu am dat adresa exacta de la cele din perioada imperiului roman.

http://www.metmuseum.org/toah/hd/aams/hd_aams.htm#size_b
Acest link va duce la muzeul Metropolitan.
Iata parerea expertilor de la muzeul cu privire la dimensiunile armurilor.

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The size of armor indicates that people in the Middle Ages and the Renaissance were smaller.—In general, true.
 
Medical and anthropological research demonstrates that the average height of men and women has gradually increased over the centuries, a process that, for reasons of progressively better diet and public health, has accelerated during the past 150 years or so. The majority of surviving armors from the fifteenth and sixteenth centuries appear to confirm these findings.

However, when trying to affirm such generalizations from armor, a number of factors need to be carefully considered. First, is the armor complete and homogeneous (i.e., do all parts belong together), thereby giving an accurate impression of the height of the original wearer? Second, even a high-quality armor, made to measure for a particular owner, can provide only an estimate of its former wearer's height with a margin of at least an inch or two (2–5 cm), since the overlap of the protections for lower abdomen (skirt and tassets) and thighs (cuisses) can only be approximated.

Indeed, armor comes in all shapes and sizes, such as armor for children or young men (as opposed to that for adults), and there are even armors made for dwarfs and giants (often found at European courts as "curiosities"). Moreover, then as now, other general factors have to be taken into account, such as differences in average body height between northern and southern Europeans for example, or the simple fact that there have always been people who were exceptionally tall or short when compared to their average contemporary.

Among the famous exceptions are royal examples such as Francis I, king of France (r. 1515–47), or Henry VIII, king of England (r. 1509–47). The latter's height of about 6 feet (180 cm) was commented upon by his contemporaries, and can be verified by the more than half-dozen of his armors surviving today (two of them in the Metropolitan Museum).

For an interesting contrast in the galleries of the Metropolitan Museum's Department of Arms and Armor, compare the (composite) German harness of about 1530 and the field armor attributed to Emperor Ferdinand I (1503–1564), of about 1555 (33.164). Neither armor is complete, and the sizes of the former owners are necessarily broad estimates, yet the differences in size and stature are remarkable: while the owner of the first armor was probably around 6 feet 4 inches (ca. 193 cm) tall, with his chest measuring about 54 inches (137 cm) in circumference, the owner of the latter harness, probably Emperor Ferdinand, does not appear to have measured more than about 5 feet 7 inches (170 cm) in height.


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Dualist   Primii Oameni   12 Oct 2005, 07:33 PM
contraste   Instinctele, selectia naturala, si-au spus din pli...   12 Oct 2005, 07:55 PM
mariusc2   Stiti ce nu pot sa imi explic eu? Cum a reusit hom...   12 Oct 2005, 08:14 PM
exergy33   Dualist QUOTE OMUL CAVERNELOR CUM A SUPRAVIETUIT ...   12 Oct 2005, 08:15 PM
axel   QUOTE (mariusc2 @ 12 Oct 2005, 10:14 PM) Stiti ce ...   12 Oct 2005, 09:06 PM
exergy33   Dau un citat din Dr.Strainescu (Universitatea Bucu...   13 Oct 2005, 09:00 AM
axel   Asa, si? De ce ne-ar interesa cumva modelul creati...   13 Oct 2005, 09:04 AM
Catalin   QUOTE Modelul creaţionist este clar în aceas...   13 Oct 2005, 09:11 AM
exergy33   axel Intrebarea pusa de mariusc2 era: QUOTE Stiti...   13 Oct 2005, 09:29 AM
Ovidius   QUOTE Cum a fost posibila supravietuirea lui intr-...   13 Oct 2005, 09:33 AM
abis   QUOTE (exergy33 @ 13 Oct 2005, 10:29 AM) Nimeni in...   13 Oct 2005, 09:40 AM
MIA   QUOTE (mariusc2 @ 12 Oct 2005, 09:14 PM) Stiti ce ...   13 Oct 2005, 10:35 AM
abis   In ADN-ul nostru nu exista "urme" ale ne...   13 Oct 2005, 10:40 AM
exergy33   MIA Daca nu ma insel specialistii au demonstrat c...   13 Oct 2005, 12:29 PM
mothman   QUOTE (Dualist)Cum comunica el cu semenii sai intr...   13 Oct 2005, 01:42 PM
Wluiki   QUOTE (Dualist @ 12 Oct 2005, 09:33 PM) Cum comuni...   20 Oct 2005, 05:33 PM
Dualist   QUOTE (Wluiki @ 20 Oct 2005, 06:33 PM) La ultima i...   20 Oct 2005, 07:53 PM
exergy33   Quote :(Wluiki@20 Oct 2005, 09:03 PM) QUOTE QUOTE...   20 Oct 2005, 09:49 PM
mothman   QUOTE (exergy33 @ 20 Oct 2005, 10:49 PM)Armur...   20 Oct 2005, 11:22 PM
exergy33   mothman Ma refeream la dimensiunile pieselor meta...   21 Oct 2005, 06:56 AM
MIA   QUOTE (exergy33 @ 20 Oct 2005, 10:49 PM) Arheologi...   21 Oct 2005, 07:46 AM
abis   QUOTE (exergy33 @ 20 Oct 2005, 10:49 PM) Totusi e ...   21 Oct 2005, 08:12 AM
exergy33   abis QUOTE Pune si tu un link catre articolul res...   21 Oct 2005, 09:16 AM
abis   Exergy33, N-ai inteles: pune aici un link catre a...   21 Oct 2005, 09:30 AM
Wluiki   Konrad Lorenz - Cele opt pacate capitale ale omeni...   21 Oct 2005, 09:50 AM
exergy33   abis QUOTE Pune si tu un link catre articolul resp...   21 Oct 2005, 10:31 AM
abis   S-ar putea ca explicatia sa fie chiar in textul ci...   21 Oct 2005, 10:46 AM
ypsilonalpha   Hmm ... eu ştiam că armurile medievale e...   21 Oct 2005, 12:53 PM
mothman   Armurile ca armurile, dar noi ne-am cam indepartat...   21 Oct 2005, 12:56 PM
exergy33   Deci sa ne reintoarcem la primii oameni. Prin ani...   21 Oct 2005, 01:44 PM
Kyklos   Cum comunica el cu semenii sai intr-o lume fara in...   3 Jan 2006, 07:22 PM
mothman   Probabil ca stiti revista Descopera, care are si u...   24 Jan 2006, 10:53 PM
Kyklos   Nu se stie cu exacitate cum au trait primii oameni...   1 Feb 2006, 05:11 PM
mothman   QUOTE (Plutarh)Nu se stie cu exacitate cum au trai...   3 Feb 2006, 06:20 PM
Kyklos   De pilda in mlastinile din Danemarca , sper sa nu ...   3 Feb 2006, 10:42 PM
mothman   S-ar parea ca s-a facut o noua descoperire paleont...   20 Sep 2006, 11:38 PM
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marduk   La fel de bine puteau fi nevoiti sa stea in doua p...   4 Jul 2009, 07:37 AM
actionmedia   QUOTE(marduk @ 4 Jul 2009, 08:37 AM) La f...   4 Jul 2009, 10:53 AM
actionmedia   Dwarfs = Neanderthal? Ma gandeam asa, la similarit...   7 Jul 2009, 11:30 AM
infinitty   QUOTE(Dualist @ 12 Oct 2005, 08:33 PM) Ma...   16 Jul 2009, 03:14 PM
marduk   QUOTE(actionmedia @ 4 Jul 2009, 11:53 AM)...   16 Jul 2009, 06:02 PM
actionmedia   QUOTE(marduk @ 16 Jul 2009, 07:02 PM) Dar...   16 Jul 2009, 10:33 PM
Erwin   eficienţa este cuvântul cheie! Toate spec...   17 Jul 2009, 01:16 AM


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