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black ice
Titlul spune totul.
Sunt si eu curios in legatura cu acest lucru: cum imi dau seama ce ascendent am?
Tudy
Uita-te aici, poate te lamuresti:

http://www.zodiacsolar.com/html/ascendent/ceeste.htm

...si pentru calculul efectiv al ascendentului, poti intra aici:

http://www.zodii.ro/index.php?unde=ascendent

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TriRegnum
Singur nu-l poti calcula, iti trebuiesc efemeridele si ma indoiesc ca le ai.
Sunt site-uri cu asfel de "oracole" si vei gasi acolo, dar dupa parerea mea sunt niste minciuni.
Tudy
Mda. In general e mult mai util sa obtii informatia asta de la un astrolog.
aciroiv
ohyeah.gif nu crede in toate prostiile lor chiar daca si pe mine uneori ma intereseaza astfel de lucruri care ma duc in eroare... sincer conteaza sa gindesti corect, pozitiv, optimist thumb_yello.gif si neegois si nu cred ca vei avea nevoie de calcularea ascendentului, asteas nascoceli de-a oamenilor... devil.gif si poate citesti citeceva despre legea karmei si mai gasesti citeva argumente...
gio19ro
Nu stiti cum se calculeaza Ascendentul?
Pai acum de cand avem komputer si internet e simplu.
Pasul 1. Intrati pe Google
Pasul 2. cautati astrolog.5 Mie imi place totusi versiunea .4
Pasul 3. Download
Pasul 4. Intrati in Astrolog la Info, Set chart info si va bagati data si ora nasterii, longitudinea si latitudinea locului in care v-ati nascut si time zoneul potrivit
Pasul 5. tasta OK ohyeah.gif


Va sfatuiesc sa intrati si la Setting, Restriction si sa scoateti tot in afara de planete si ascendent. Asta pt ca pt un incepator sunt cam multe linii si liniute colorate pe acolo.
gio19ro
Ei, ati reusit? Astept sa-mi spune-ti ce ascendent aveti! 6.gif
Marcus
Sau intrati pe urmatorul link cool.gif

http://www.dsclex.ro/astrolog/astrologie.htm

unde puteti afla nu numai ascendentul, dar si horoscopul natal personalizat, precum si notiuni despre numerologie. COMPLET si GRATUIT ! biggrin.gif

Eu, personal, am aflat ca am ascendent in balanta (zodia nativa=leu). biggrin.gif
Jubi


Eu am ascendentul in Varsator... spoton.gif
gio19ro
Eu nu am Ascendentul in Varsator dar sunt Varsator de zodie. spoton.gif
^Anne^
Am intrat si eu site-ul acela pt ca nu stiam ce ascendent am...RAC!!
barbi
eu am ascendentul in SCORPION!! devil.gif
Andromeda
Eu sunt SCORPION! spoton.gif ..cu ascendent in gemeni, e drept..si ce daca..?! tongue.gif
Serenity
Eu mi-am facut un test in care mi se spunea ca zodia SCORPION-ului ma caracterizeaza cel mai bine.. nah! (ce-i cu scorpionul asta? tongue.gif)
Andromeda
Chiar asa..ce-i cu SCORPION-ul asta? jamie.gif ...Nu e nimic, iti zic eu smile.gif ..Dar toti cand aud de zodia asta asa de frumoasa.. ohyeah.gif scot tot felul de sunete de genul..Ihhhh....oooohhhh, urmate de comentarii pe masura cool.gif E o zodie plina de baieti de treaba wink.gif
contraste
Inca una!
fatality
Eu mi-am facut calculul si am ascendentul in Berbec, desi sunt tot Berbec, deci, sunt un Berbec autentic. biggrin.gif
shapeshifter
QUOTE (gio19ro @ 10 Jan 2004, 01:22 PM)
Nu stiti cum se calculeaza Ascendentul?
Pai acum de cand avem komputer si internet e simplu.
Pasul 1. Intrati pe Google
Pasul 2. cautati astrolog.5 Mie imi place totusi versiunea .4
Pasul 3. Download
Pasul 4. Intrati in Astrolog la Info, Set chart info si va bagati data si ora nasterii, longitudinea si latitudinea locului in care v-ati nascut si time zoneul potrivit
Pasul 5. tasta OK ohyeah.gif


Va sfatuiesc sa intrati si la Setting, Restriction si sa scoateti tot in afara de planete si ascendent. Asta pt ca pt un incepator sunt cam multe linii si liniute colorate pe acolo.

eu zic să lăsaţi jucărelele gen astrolog 5 şi să luaţi de aici ceva serios..
Succes!
cine vrea să-mi dea datele va avea imediat ascendentul, harta natală şi o interpretare..
gypsyhart
@shapeshifter
Linkul tau nu merge.
shapeshifter
mai īncearcă trebuie să meargă (e ftp)..
gypsyhart
Nu merge, cel putin la mine.
Oiski-Poiski
Nu numai ca nu merge dar mi-a dat peste cap si computerul cerandu-mi tot felul de chestii sad.gif
Cred ca ascendentul meu este Gemenii desi nu prea pricep eu cum vine asta din moment ce sunt sagetatoare.
saldora
QUOTE (Oiski-Poiski @ 15 Nov 2005, 03:36 PM)
Cred ca ascendentul meu este Gemenii desi nu prea pricep eu cum vine asta din moment ce sunt sagetatoare.

In momentul nastere (in functie si de loc), la orizont se afla o anumita constelatie.. aceea constelatie da Ascendentul (de la ascensiune).
Serenity
Eu tin minte ca la un moment dat Marcus a pus un link catre un site unde iti puteai calcula foarte simplu ascendentul si care mergea foarte bine wink.gif Sper sa nu ma insel.
shapeshifter
cine doreşte să-mi dea datele de naştere: data, locul naşterii, ora va avea şi o interpretare imediat.. aştept doritori (no fake).. pentru cunoscători (lucrez cu programele Kepler 7, Solar Fire 5, Solar Maps 3, Jigsaw2, Janus 3)..

pentru cine nu a auzit de Kepler 7:
http://www.skyviewzone.com/software.htm

Solar Fire:
http://www.alabe.com/


Serenity
Pai eu m-am nascut in Romania, la Resita, la ora 2 si jumatate noaptea pe 24 martie 1985. Do me, maestre! tongue.gif
shapeshifter
eşti berbec cu ascendent īn capricorn
nu ştiu cum să-ţi dau īntreaga interpretare pentru că este lungă şi nu pot ataşa.. (o să-l pun pe o adresă de ftp şi o să-ţi dau pm de unde īl poţi descărca ok?)

iată un extras:

Your Ascendant is into Capricorn
Your primary motivation in life is to gain secure material circumstances and to acquire possessions. You are a serious person, with a strong sense of reality. You have great self-control and self-discipline, but can also be too controlled and lacking in spontaneity. Success in life comes to you through hard work and concentration upon an objective. Essentially a pragmatist, you will put duty and responsibility before your heart's inclinations.


Your Ascendant is Trine your Moon (3°51'S)
You have natural warmth, coupled with an ability to make others feel at ease in your company and in your environment. You enjoy good relations with others because you are generally easygoing, obliging and able to adapt to most situations. Women play an important role in your life and you will have many contacts with them.


Your Ascendant is Trine your Mars (1°50'A)
Hardworking and industrious, you are goal conscious and determined to achieve your personal desires. You are ambitious for recognition and you achieve successes through your own efforts and self-motivation. You are a good organiser and like being in charge of situations. Giving orders or instructions to others comes naturally to you. In general, your physique is strong and hardy and you recover from low-level illnesses or injuries comparatively quickly. You face life's battles head on and are rarely daunted by much at all.


Your Ascendant is Conjunct your Neptune (0°58'S)
You present a somewhat dreamy and otherworldly appearance or manner to other people. You sometimes seem to be floating on air, or living in your own little world. This particular conjunction is often found in the charts of creative individuals, such as artists and musicians or people who are highly attuned to the inner or spiritual aspects of life. However, it is also present in the horoscopes of those who are susceptible to stimulants or deceivers and cheats.


Your Ascendant is Sextile your Pluto (0°22'S)
You have the ability to lead others and to subtly get people to do as you wish, usually through gentle but firm persuasion. Other people are attracted to you because you have a certain irresistible magnetism, that they can't quite put their finger on. You will win friends and influence people because you respect power and know not to abuse it.

The Qualities
38% Cardinal
The Cardinal signs are Aries, Cancer, Libra & Capricorn. The more planets you have in any of these signs the more Cardinal you are.
Cardinal people are action oriented and initiating. They are interested in promoting change and bringing new things into existence. They are direct, assertive and like to take charge of situations. They are ambitious, independent and dislike being supervised. They are good at starting projects, but not so good at completing them, preferring to leave follow up work to more patient and persevering people. They have abundant enthusiasm and are very resourceful. Cardinal people generally don't hold grudges.


54% Fixed
The Fixed signs are Taurus, Leo, Scorpio & Aquarius. The more planets you have in any of these signs the more Fixed you are.
Fixed people are persevering and enduring. They achieve results in life through determined and persistent effort. They tend to do one thing at a time and are extremely practical in their approach to everything. They are not easily influenced by others and can be quite firm or stubborn once their minds are made up about something. They tend to hold onto things and are reluctant to change. They are staunch, but they can also be inflexible and at risk from becoming set in their ways.


8% Mutable
The Mutable signs are Gemini, Virgo, Sagittarius & Pisces. The more planets you have in any of these signs the more Mutable you are.
Mutable people are the most flexible of the three types. They are able to go with the flow. They are changeable and adaptable, but also indecisive and restless. They are sensitive to the opinions of others, but they can also be impressionable and easily influenced by environmental circumstances. Mutable people lack the stubbornness of the Fixed signs and the forcefulness of the Cardinal signs, which makes them good mediators or go-betweens.


The Elements
31% Fire
The Fire signs are Aries, Leo & Sagittarius. The more planets you have in the Fire signs the more pro-active and self-determining you are.
The Fire signs go for freedom of action and power. They strive for recognition in life. They are out-going and enthusiastic, adventure seeking and powerful. They are ardent, passionate, assertive, demonstrative, bold and courageous. They can also be impatient and bossy, wilful and reactive, especially when they face delays or obstructions in their path.

38% Earth
The Earth signs are Taurus, Virgo & Capricorn. The more planets you have in the Earth signs the more practical and needful of security you are.

The Earth signs seek material security. They are down-to-earth, pragmatic, cautious, sensible and conservative. Hardworking and industrious, Earth signs are able to put into effect the ideas and inspirations of the other signs. They can be accumulative, possessive and overly materialistic. They are also sensual and pleasure seeking.

8% Air
The Air signs are Gemini, Libra & Aquarius. The more planets you have in the Air signs the more pro-active and self-determining you are.
The Air signs go for freedom of action and freedom of movement. Air signs need to be able to come and go at will. Their domain is the air we breathe; hence they are conduits for communication and the exchange of ideas. They are mentally alert and intellectually stimulating. Gregarious and sociable, Air signs like to be around other people. They are observant and perceptive, curious and inquisitive. They live totally in the here and now, and want to be in whatever is going on.


23% Water
The Water signs are Cancer, Scorpio & Pisces. The more planets you have in the Water signs the more needful you are of emotional security.
People with a majority of planets in the Water signs are motivated by the need to gain security in their emotional lives. They are sensitive, deep, compassionate, imaginative and intuitive. Their inner lives and dream lives are very active. They are spiritually inclined and potentially psychic, with an ability to tune into others. Life is experienced as a mystical journey. They can also be hypersensitive, impressionable and emotionally needy.
shapeshifter
PLANETS IN SIGNS

Sun in Aries
You have an assertive and direct nature, with the urge to be constantly doing something. Self-motivated and enterprising, you like being where the action is and taking the initiative. Naturally bold and courageous, you will often take risks and attempt things that others find daunting. You have a competitive nature and like to challenge others mentally and physically. And, of course, you like to set challenges for yourself. At times, you can be self-orientated and even selfish. You can also display recklessness and experience difficulties through impatience.

Moon in Taurus
You have a need for financial and material security in order to maintain emotional well-being. While it is in your nature to manage your financial affairs with care, it is probable that you will have changeable material circumstances in life. In your emotional life, you desire constancy and faithfulness in others. You know how to enjoy the good things in life. There can be a risk of weight gain through over-indulgence or immoderation.

Mercury in Aries
Mentally alert, you process and understand things quickly. You are eager to argue a point and compete with others intellectually. You can also make decisions quickly and supply a ready answer when challenged. In working situations, you can be inspiring and inclined to take the lead in discussions. However, you get quite restless and bored if meetings drag on and on. You have bold ideas and will stand up for yourself. You can also be sharp-tongued and quarrelsome.

Venus in Aries
You are ardent and bold in your expression of love and sexual attraction. In general, you prefer to initiate romantic encounters and can be quite competitive. Love at first sight is not unknown to you. While love matters are important to you, your freedom is possibly more important. Independently-minded, you will react emotionally if a lover or partner attempts to restrict you in any way. At times, you can be selfish in love.

Mars in Taurus
You direct your energies towards the realisation of practical objectives. Possessing strong powers of perseverance and endurance, you have the ability to apply yourself to a task for hours on end. In all likelihood, you are motivated to acquire possessions and material security. You are usually slow to anger but if pushed too far, you can become a formidable opponent. You can experience conflicts with others through being stubborn, intractable or unyielding.

Jupiter in Aquarius
You have an impartial and unprejudiced nature, with a strong social sense. You have humanitarian tendencies and can be tolerant and accepting of the viewpoints of others, even if you don't agree with them. Equally, you can be provocative and revolutionary in your thinking, especially in regard to social or humanitarian issues. It is likely that you will establish many friendships with people from all over the world and from all walks of life.

Saturn in Scorpio
You have a realistic outlook on life and tend to take it seriously. You have high ambitions, with a strong desire to succeed in life. You can readily endure hardship if a cause is worthy enough. Negatively, there can be the inclination to judge yourself and others harshly or to harbour resentments.

Uranus in Sagittarius
You are motivated by the desire to carry through reforms that reflect your own and your generation's particular outlooks on life, despite inevitable confrontations with traditional or conventional forces. You are involved in innovative and experimental developments in learning and education - as either a student or educator.

Neptune in Capricorn
You are inclined to hold idealistic or unrealistic views about big business, multinationalism and governmental policies. However, you are equally aware of the danger of placing indiscriminate faith in established structures because you recognise their fragility. You are part of a generation that witnesses the dissolving of national boundaries, through such phenomena as the Internet and global communication.

Pluto in Scorpio
You are a member of a generation who has the power to wield a powerful influence on others through the use or misuse of sexual energy. By nature, you are emotionally intense and prone to power struggles.

Moon's North Node in Taurus
You seek to establish loyal and stable personal unions. There is a desire for enduring friendships and reliable connections. You tend to form contacts with down-to-earth and realistic people. Contact with the arts or artists are possible.

Ascendant in Capricorn
Your primary motivation in life is to gain secure material circumstances and to acquire possessions. You are a serious person, with a strong sense of reality. You have great self-control and self-discipline, but can also be too controlled and lacking in spontaneity. Success in life comes to you through hard work and concentration upon an objective. Essentially a pragmatist, you will put duty and responsibility before your heart's inclinations.

Midheaven in Scorpio
Self-realisation is achieved through overcoming desire and managing power. Your aim in life is to unlock the secrets of nature. You attain your objectives through tenacity, perseverance and determination. You have abilities for research and investigative work.
contraste
Ia specialistule, daca mai ai timp, ocupa-te si de mine:
Sambata, ora 11 Braila, noiembrie 20 1954.
Iti multumesc,
cu drag.
shapeshifter
11 ziua sau noaptea?
contraste
ziua
shapeshifter
scorpion cu ascendent īn capricorn..

PLANETS IN SIGNS

Sun in Scorpio
You are intense, magnetic and insightful. You feel things deeply and are passionate about the things that interest you the most. Life is viewed as an exercise in survival. Everything you achieve is earned. You have great powers of perseverance and tenacity. Conflicts with others are common-place, despite your best efforts at harmony. You are steadfast in adversity and take pride in coping with life's challenges. You have an all-or-nothing attitude to most things and will give something your total attention if warranted. At times, you can be prone to bouts of extremism, fanaticism and obsession.

Moon in Libra
Above all, you desire harmony and equality in your personal and social relationships. You enjoy company and social activity. Emotionally, you have a need for love and tenderness and will tend to form partnerships throughout your life to satisfy this. You value peace in your domestic life. You can, on occasion, be superficial in your feelings and irresponsible in your behaviour.

Mercury in Scorpio
You have a deeply perceptive mind, which is capable of profound thinking. While you do not tend to be an "ideas" person, you're keenly instinctive and usually see things accurately, if not necessarily charitably. Rather than mince your words, you prefer to tell it like it is. You are interested in intrigues and have a talent for investigative or research work. You can be secretive, suspicious, scheming and sarcastic.

Venus in Scorpio
In love, you have an all or nothing approach. You possess intense feelings for a partner or lover and tend to feel drawn to them, as if by some kind of undeniable power or compulsion. It is not unusual for you experience the extremes of sizzling passion and icy indifference. Difficulties in love can arise through emotional manipulation, power struggles or jealousy.

Mars in Aquarius
You have your own unique ways of doing things, coupled with the ability to find innovative solutions to problems. You have a strong urge to act independently and will rebel against any restrictions imposed by others. Other people shouldn't presume to tell you what to do, as they will get a swift reaction. You assert your right to act freely and according to your own truth. You will also stand up for others, especially your friends, when they are being attacked.

Jupiter in Cancer
You have a strong attachment to your home and family. The creation of a secure and comfortable home for yourself and your loved ones is important to you. Your educational, moral and religious outlooks are established in early life. Financial assistance is often available within the family. You have a caring and protective nature, coupled with a genuine concern for the emotional needs of others.

Saturn in Scorpio
You have a realistic outlook on life and tend to take it seriously. You have high ambitions, with a strong desire to succeed in life. You can readily endure hardship if a cause is worthy enough. Negatively, there can be the inclination to judge yourself and others harshly or to harbour resentments.

Uranus in Cancer
You have a constantly changing and stimulating home environment. Your domestic arrangements reflect your own tastes and needs. There is the possibility of disruptions to your family life - either within your own home or your parental home.

Neptune in Libra
You are part of a generation that tends to idealise romantic love and marriage. There is the potential for unrealistic expectations in relationships, that can lead to letdowns or disappointments. You have a high sensitivity to beauty and refinement, coupled with an appreciation of the arts.

Pluto in Leo
You have a strong need to be self-expressive and to make an impression on others and the world in general. You are part of a generation of leaders and doers. While you tend to challenge authority, you can be extreme and dictatorial when in positions of power yourself.

Moon's North Node in Capricorn
There is a need for you to form associations with people who have a clear sense of who they are and where they're heading in life. You are a responsible person, with a strong sense of responsibility towards others. You possibly prefer few but sincere friendships in life. You have an inclination to seek contact with older or experienced people or those of a wide-age difference to yourself.

Ascendant in Capricorn
Your primary motivation in life is to gain secure material circumstances and to acquire possessions. You are a serious person, with a strong sense of reality. You have great self-control and self-discipline, but can also be too controlled and lacking in spontaneity. Success in life comes to you through hard work and concentration upon an objective. Essentially a pragmatist, you will put duty and responsibility before your heart's inclinations.

Midheaven in Scorpio
Self-realisation is achieved through overcoming desire and managing power. Your aim in life is to unlock the secrets of nature. You attain your objectives through tenacity, perseverance and determination. You have abilities for research and investigative work.
contraste
Multumesc !
shapeshifter
o să-ţi dau o adresă pe pm de unde poţi lua raportul full (īn mai multe versiuni: Kepler 7, Janus 3, Solar Fire 5)..
contraste
da........................... thumb_yello.gif
Serenity
Multumesc frumos! yay.gif Poate ar trebui sa deschizi un topic separat, shapeshifter. Cred ca se vor gasi destui curiosi... wink.gif
Marcus
Fara sa faceti aceste informatii publice, recomand (din nou) site-ul dsclex.ro si de acolo aflati absolut orice informatie doriti si care are legatura cu astrologia (horoscop personalizat - mi se pare ca aici intra si ascendentul - , bioritm, tarot, numerologie, viata anterioara, astro interpretoare, astro amor, etc) . Este cel mai complet site de astrologie in limba romana pe care-l stiu. wink.gif Mult mai bun decat sa platiti un astrolog sa va spuna aceleasi gogosi. spoton.gif

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P.S. Eu tocmai am aflat ca in viata anterioara am fost japonez! rofl.gif In jurul anului 1600 rofl.gif asta chiar ca e distractiv! thumb_yello.gif Partea ciudata e ca mi-au "ghicit" interesul pentru calatorii din viata actuala. wink.gif
shapeshifter
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Partea ciudata e ca mi-au "ghicit" interesul pentru calatorii din viata actuala
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asta se observă uşor din harta natala dacă ai ceva planete īn casa a 9-a..
Marcus
A, adica mie imi place sa calatoresc din cauza ca am planete in casa a 9-a! laugh.gif Planetele astea se comporta precum un cod genetic, nu? wink.gif
batman
QUOTE (Marcus @ 18 Nov 2005, 03:00 AM)
Fara sa faceti aceste informatii publice, recomand (din nou) site-ul dsclex.ro si de acolo aflati absolut orice informatie doriti si care are legatura cu astrologia (horoscop personalizat - mi se pare ca aici intra si ascendentul - , bioritm, tarot, numerologie, viata anterioara, astro interpretoare, astro amor, etc) . Este cel mai complet site de astrologie in limba romana pe care-l stiu. wink.gif Mult mai bun decat sa platiti un astrolog sa va spuna aceleasi gogosi. spoton.gif

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P.S. Eu tocmai am aflat ca in viata anterioara am fost japonez! rofl.gif In jurul anului 1600 rofl.gif asta chiar ca e distractiv! thumb_yello.gif Partea ciudata e ca mi-au "ghicit" interesul pentru calatorii din viata actuala. wink.gif

Un site bun de astrologie este: e-astrologie

Contine multe materiale astrologice si documentatii pentru cei dornici sa invete si sa se informeze la acest capitol. Si despre acele harti personalizate, pe care le face automat calculatorul pe dclex, da-mi voie sa am anumite rezerve; tot omul este cel care realizeaza o interpretare mai buna si mai apropiate de realitate, iar pentru asta o discutie cu pasionatii de astrologie pe unul din numeroasele forumuri de acest gen existente, te poate lamuri mult mai bine.

Am intrat pe forumul de la dclex si am fost oripilat de modul cum se modera sectiunea de astrologie de catre persoana care se ocupa asa ceva... Vorbea urat cu vizitatorii care cereau o parere si facea diferite comentarii neplacute prin care dadea de inteles ca nu da doi bani pe aceasta stiinta, ceea ce mi se pare mai mult decat suspect...

Asa ca lasati-ma va rog cu site-ul minune de la dclex... smile.gif
shapeshifter
batman sunt de acord cu tine, o interpretare bună se face de către un astrolog versat aşa cum zicea şi Dayne Rudyar astrologia trebuie ,,mulată" pe personalitatea fiecăruia adică e vorba despre o astrologie a personalităţii.. Kepler 7 are mii de cazuri de hărţi : cutremure, evoluţia indicilor bancari, personalităţi, mi se pare de departe cel mai complet soft de astrologie care simplifică mult munca unui astrolog.. cine doreşte Kepler 7, Solar Fire 5, Janus 3 rog să mă contacteze pe pm..
Tzadde
Buna, sunt nou pe-aici... Ce se aude pe-aici? laugh.gif Eu sunt Sagetator cu Ascendent in Gemeni. Stiu sigur acest lucru, deoarece nu de multa vreme fac parte si eu - mai nou - din breasla astrologilor... Ca in orice domeniu in care se fac opinteli de originalitate, sunt mereu polemici... Unii au anumite puncte de vedere, altii le au cu totul diferite... De aceea se pot isca neintelegeri, voite sau nu... ohyeah.gif Stau pe-aici ca prostu' in loc sa fac altceva. laugh.gif Sunt nedormit si e 7:38 dimineata, ma scuzati daca ceva nu va convine... sorry.gif
Blakut
O mica rectificare, pentru cei care inca mai cred: astronomic (cu n) vorbind, soarele trece prin 13 constelatii. De asemenea, cei care stiau ca sunt intr-o zodie, in mod normal ar fi cu una inainte. (Decalajul apare pentru ca nimeni nu a mai facut calcule serioase de ani (multi) de zile). Iar cei nascuti in prima jumatate a Sagetatorului sunt de fapt Ophiucus (ca de cand a fost facut zodiacul, soarele mai trece si prin constelatia asta acum). Folositi orice simulator astronomic stelar ca sa va convingeti ca zodiacul e ramas in urma si oricum useless.
Tzadde
O mica observatie: astronomia nu prea are legatura cu astrologia... Sunt stiinte diferite, sunt vederi diferite...
Astronomia doar arata corpurile ceresti fizice, pe cand astrologia se foloseste de simboluri, si inca foarte puternice.
Orice planeta conjuncta cu o stea fixa (asemenea stele fixe sunt preluate din astronomie, se pare) isi schimba energia cu care, de obicei, e asociata...
Nu stiu cat de bine m-am facut inteles, insa... Sper sa putem vorbi mai pe larg pe marginea acestui subiect. Sa ma scuzati daca am fost prea off-topic...
Ophiucus, astrologic, e vazut ca si cum ar fi o constelatie in plus, care se suprapune unei zodii cunoscute... Pozitiile planetelor (Mercur, Venus, Marte, Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, Neptun, Pluton) si luminariilor (Soarele si Luna) nu sunt privite astronomic, ci simbolic, de aceea subliniez diferentele de vederi care exista intre aceste domenii, desi au denumiri oarecum asemanatoare...
Blakut
laugh.gif Stiu care e diferenta dintre cele doua, studiez astronomia. Vroiam sa arat ca astrologia si orice calcul legat de ea sunt o aiureala, aducand niste argumente palpabile.
Tzadde
Foarte bine ca studiezi astronomia, sunt oameni care se ocupa si de astronomie, si de astrologie. Cand e vorba de domeniul din urma, se studiaza datele astronomice ale fiecarei planete si apoi simbolismul acesteia. E un inceput bun, in cazul tau, ohyeah.gif indiferent daca tu crezi in astrologie sau nu.
Hai sa-ti spun un mic secret: nici eu nu credeam in astrologie pana nu am vazut ce inseamna aceasta cu adevarat. Singur trebuie sa fii pregatit pentru a o intelege, altfel orice incercare a cuiva de a te convinge de veridicitatea acestei combinatii de stiinta si arta (asa cum o vad eu) s-ar solda cu un esec... Prin urmare, un impuls interior venit de la un semnal din exterior poate fi suficient, asa cum a fost in cazul meu.
Dupa ce am inceput sa studiez astrologia, m-am uitat si la horoscoapele din mass-media, dar uite ca nu se potriveau deloc cu ceea ce se intampla in realitate... Explicatia e simpla si logica, chiar evidenta: toti suntem diferiti unii de altii. In plus, Soarele nu e singurul care ne arata personalitatea (zodia care credem ca ne reprezinta este cea in care se afla Soarele), o influenta majora avand-o si Ascendentul, care se intareste o data cu inaintarea in viata, fiindca arata expresia sinelui... Pentru aflarea acestuia e nevoie de date cat mai precise, iar daca Asc se afla la granita dintre zodii (numita cuspida), ora nasterii trebuie sa fie foarte(!) precisa...
Sper ca va plac post-urile mele.
O zi buna tuturor! spoton.gif
gio19ro
Martea au loc cele mai multe accidente grave
Autor: Andrei Dumitrescu.

Fenomen confirmat de Politia Rutiera
Cele mai multe accidente rutiere grave, inregistrate anul acesta in Capitala, s-au produs martea. Si asta in conditiile in care, se spune din popor, ca sunt "trei ceasuri rele".

Anul acesta, martea s-a dovedit ziua mortii pentru soferii bucuresteni


Potrivit unui calcul realizat la nivelul Brigazii de Politie Rutiera, 20,3 la suta din cele 263 de accidente grave care au avut loc, in Bucuresti, in ultimele cinci luni, s-au produs martea, in timp ce lunea si joia s-au produs cate 17,3 la suta. Autoritatile nu au putut oferi nicio explicatie cu privire la acest fenomen. "Pur si simplu asa a iesit la calcul. Analiza noastra a relevat ca majoritatea accidentelor cu morti sau raniti grav s-au produs in zilele de marti", ne-au spus politistii.


Sursa: ziarul Averea din 17 mai 2006
Marcus
Tzadde, nu prea am urmarit tot dialogul, dar te vad atat de convins de eficienta astrologiei incat nu pot sa nu te "chinui" un pic. ohyeah.gif

Intrebarea mea pentru tine este:

Care este sensul (rolul) astrologiei si cum se manifesta ea, pentru un individ aflat fizic in spatiul interplanetar?

Exemplu: Individul se naste in cosmos. Ce zodie este? huh.gif (sau ce ASCENDENT, ca sa fiu si putin ONTOPIC smile.gif )

[edit]Ah, abia acum observ, discutia dintre Tzadde si Blakut a avut loc cu mult timp in urma... unsure.gif
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