Copii Batuti De Parinti, Copiii care in copilarie au fost batuti si abuzati raman cu sechele Optiuni

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Cunosc adulti, am prieteni, care in copilarie au fost batuti de parinti. Sunt traumatizati pe viata, unii reusesc sa depaseasca aceasta situatie, unii se intorc mereu in copilarie cu durere. Din fericire, nu stiu ce inseamna sa fii abuzat, batut, in copilarie, dar mi se pare ca si asa copilaria e o perioada prea grea din viata unui om, chiar si fara bataie. Practic nu ai niciun drept, iar de la o anumita varsta o stii. Sa mai ai si sentimentul insecuritatii, sa-ti fie frica de adulti pentru ca iti fac rau fizic, mi se pare prea mult.
Oamenii acestia merita un grup de suport. Nicoleta Luciu, Arnold Schwartzenegger, dar si altii, sunt dintre copiii care au luat rau bataie in copilarie.

[Blakut]

Nimeni insa nu te obliga sa te conformezi acestor reguli. Presiunea sociala e mare, chiar foarte mare: trebuie sa ai o casa, trebuie sa ai masina, in casa trebuie sa ai toate gadgeturile posibile, in bucatarie la fel. Si totusi nu te obliga nimeni, alegerea o faci singur sau impreuna cu partenerul. Si cum spui tu, alegi in defavoarea copiilor.

Nu trebuie sa ai doua salarii, e suficient unul, nu trebuie sa ai musai casa ta (merge si chiria), masina scumpa (merge si o masina de 500-1000 de dolari, mai ales in state), nu trebuie televizor urias, nu trebuie ultimele gadgeturi si nici in bucatarie toti robotii existenti.

Daca simti ca nu petreci suficient timp cu copiii (sfarsitul de saptamana si concediile sunt drumul sigur pentru a-ti pierde copii din mana), sacrifica partea materiala in favoarea lor. Copiilor nu le pasa nici de mancare, nici de curatenie, nici de casa, nici de gadgeturi sau roboti. Copiii vor iubire, atentie, joaca, respect si iar atentie.

Ti-ar placea sa fii casnica? Sau vrei sa fie el?

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"The manner in which Xingu indigenous parents raise their children is somewhat unique in that, generally they do not punish their children. They respect them and treat them as adults giving them much responsibility. In return, Xingu children for their part respond well and do not misbehave. According to a Xingu Indian story, a child once started a fire that burnt down a house. Although the loss was great, no punishment was given to the child. When the father was asked why he did not punish the son, he responded with surprise, “Why? He is only a child. What would punishing him accomplish?” From that point on, the Xingu natives called him Conomét Aratá (Fire Boy).

Kayapo TribeThe above story illustrates just how different Xingu tribes are from western societies. The first thing that I noticed when I first visited the Xingu Indigenous Park Reserve is that everyone was happy. It seems that very little makes them unhappy and that they spend about half the day laughing. The native of the Xingu are always joking and laughing. Not surprisingly, outsiders with their foreign ways are often the subject of their jokes. For example when I first arrived in the Xingu Indigenous Park, the chief put a feathered crown on my head. Little did I know that I would be the source of great amusement and jokes. "

Xingu Indians


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"The power of the cacique is very limited as each member of the tribe acts for himself. No one determines what an individual should do. Each Xingu Indian is a free and independent man. It is the force of culture and tribal traditions that maintain the unity of the village and tribe. Xingu Indian men do not recognize the authority of any cacique to impose penalties and punishment. Xinguano men learn early in life as boys what their position within the community is and they begin to act like an adult at an early age. When a Xinguano attains the age of twelve, he is very knowledgeable about what his responsibilities are and about the traditions of his people."

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Cum naiba face fiecare ce vrea dar raman impreuna ? Si nu respecta nici o autoritate. Ce minune ! Ce utopie ! Utopie pentru cei care nu stiu ce vor oamenii de la viata. Exact ce obtin prin organizarea tribala, comunitate, libertate, etc, de aceea se mentine de la sine. Formata prin evolutie, nu impusa.

Acest topic a fost editat de jet li: 24 Sep 2009, 03:21 PM

[turbo trabant]

Formata prin evolutie, nu impusa.

si prin evolutie a mierlit-o , de superioara ce era.

oriunde la orice problema, ai un singur raspuns: tribu'.

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Da tribul - grupul de prieteni. Sau mai multe grupe de prieteni - care formeaza un mare trib, cunosti pe cei din satu tau dar nu tot tribul.

Faceau si fac ce vor. Simtiti cumva vreo forta care va impune sa va purtati bine cu prietenii ? Asta e natura oamenilor de fiinte sociale, tribul nu impune nimic.

Despre supravietuire : nu aveti decat sa supravietuiti voi. Nu numai asta conteaza. Intr-o lume unde se bat copii, se lasa oamenii pe strada desi adapost si mancare este de nu avem ce face cu ele. Da suntem "vii". Daca asa credeti voi. Ne transformam in altceva decat oameni, dar teoretic suntem inca vii.

http://www.spinninglobe.net/condunces.htm

Mass dumbness is vital to modem society. The dumb person is wonderfully flexible clay for psychological shaping by market research, government policymakers; public-opinion leaders, and any other interest group. The more pre-thought thoughts a person has memorized, the easier it is to predict what choices he or she will make. What dumb people cannot do is think for themselves or ever be alone for very long without feeling crazy. That is the whole point of national forced schooling; we aren't supposed to be able to think for ourselves because independent thinking gets in the way of "professional" think-ing, which is believed to follow rules of scientific precision.

Modern scientific stupidity masquerades as intellectual knowledge - which it is not. Real knowledge has to be earned by hard and painful thinking; it can't be generated in group discussions or group therapies but only in lonely sessions with yourself. Real knowledge is earned only by ceaseless questioning of yourself and others, and by the labor of independent verification; you can't buy it from a government agent, a social worker, a psychologist, a licensed specialist, or a schoolteacher. There isn't a public school in this country set up to allow the discovery of real knowledge - not even the best ones - although here and there individual teachers, like guerrilla fighters, sabotage the system and work toward this ideal. But since schools are set up to classify people rather than to see them as unique, even the best schoolteachers are strictly limited in the amount of questioning they can tolerate.

The new dumbness - the non thought of received ideas - is much more dangerous than simple ignorance, because it's really about thought control. In school, a washing away of the innate power of individual mind takes place, a "cleansing" so comprehensive that original thinking becomes difficult. If you don't believe this development was part of the intentional design of schooling, you should read William Torrey Harris's The Philosophy of Education. Harris was the U.S. Commissioner of Education at the turn of the century and the man most influential in standardizing our schools. Listen to the man.

"Ninety-nine [students] out of a hundred," writes Harris, "are automata, careful to walk in prescribed paths, careful to follow the prescribed custom." This is not all accident, Harris explains, but the "result of substantial education, which, scientifically defined, is the subsumption of the individual." Scientific education subsumes the individual until his or her behavior becomes robotic. Those are the thoughts of the most influential U.S. Commissioner of Education we've had so far.

The great theological scholar Dietrich Bonhoeffer raised this issue of the new dumbness in his brilliant analysis of Nazism, in which he sought to comprehend how the best-schooled nation in the world, Germany, could fall under its sway. He concluded that Nazism could be understood only as the psychological product of good schooling. The sheer weight of received ideas, pre-thought thoughts, was so overwhelming that individuals gave up trying to assess things for themselves. Why struggle- to invent a map of the world or of the human conscience when schools and media offer thousands of ready-made maps, pre-thought thoughts?

The new dumbness is particularly deadly to middle and upper-middle-class people, who have already been made shallow by the multiple requirements to conform. Too many people, uneasily convinced that they must know something because of a degree, diploma, or license, remain so convinced until a brutal divorce, alienation from their children, loss of employment, or periodic fits of meaninglessness manage to tip the precarious mental balance of their incomplete humanity, their stillborn adult lives.