Copii Batuti De Parinti, Copiii care in copilarie au fost batuti si abuzati raman cu sechele Optiuni

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Cunosc adulti, am prieteni, care in copilarie au fost batuti de parinti. Sunt traumatizati pe viata, unii reusesc sa depaseasca aceasta situatie, unii se intorc mereu in copilarie cu durere. Din fericire, nu stiu ce inseamna sa fii abuzat, batut, in copilarie, dar mi se pare ca si asa copilaria e o perioada prea grea din viata unui om, chiar si fara bataie. Practic nu ai niciun drept, iar de la o anumita varsta o stii. Sa mai ai si sentimentul insecuritatii, sa-ti fie frica de adulti pentru ca iti fac rau fizic, mi se pare prea mult.
Oamenii acestia merita un grup de suport. Nicoleta Luciu, Arnold Schwartzenegger, dar si altii, sunt dintre copiii care au luat rau bataie in copilarie.

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O fi adevarat faptul ca se ramane cu sechele in urma batailor repetate, insa nu sunt de acord ca o palma atunci cand e meritata strica cuiva. Desigur, palma trebuie sa vina in ultima instanta, atunci cand toate celelalte modalitati au fost incercate si nu au functionat. Copiii au o capacitate incredibila de a specula situatii, te pun in ipostaze din cele mai penibile atunci cand "ti-e lumea mai draga", daca nu au niste limite clar delimitate.
In prezent, in America de Nord, copiii au o putere extrem de mare, lucru de care sunt constienti mereu, erijandu-se de drepturile legale in asa masura incat isi pot baga parintii la inchisoare cu un simplu telefon. In scoala li se spune ca daca mama sau tata ii lovesc, sa vina sa spuna imediat, sau sa sune la politie. Se ajunge la cazuri extreme, de multe ori, pt ca respectivul copil nu are maturitatea sa inteleaga faptul ca isi face rau pe termen lung, ramanand fara parinti, fiind plasat in grija unor parinti adoptivi, care de multe ori sunt de mii de ori mai rai decat parintii sai.
De asemenea, li se spune de la 10 ani ca sunt capabili sa procreeze, ca nu trebuie sa isi intrebe parintii cum si cand sa faca sex, ei sunt singurii in masura sa decida asupra vietii lor...Cunosc un caz in care o fetita de 12 ani a ramas insarcinata si parintii nu au avut nici macar voie sa mearga la control cu copila...pt. ca e DECIZIA EI!!!!
Ne indreptam cu pasi mari spre o societate in care morala, bunul simt si cei 6 ani de-acasa nu mai au nici o valoare, copiii isi terorizeaza parintii cu pretentii din ce in ce mai mari, iar acestia nu mai au nici o metoda viabila de a face educatie. Scolile, la fel. Peste tot, aroganta, marlania de cea mai joasa factura domneste, iar noi cei ce am prins alte "timpuri" ramanem neputinciosi spectatori...

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Cititi "The Continuum Concept".

Minunea minunilor, timp de milioane de ani, milioane de oameni s-au nascut si au crescut fiecare in tribul lui fara sa fie niciodata batuti sau amenintati. Cum de se mentineau triburile ? Pentru ca natura omului nu e "antisociala". E "sociala". Cand e mic are nevoie sa fie acceptat neconditionat de catre cei din jur - asta nu inseamna rasfatat. Numai asa isi formeaza increderea in sine.

De ce puteau fi lasati "needucati" ? Pentru ca lumea lor era libera si era in natura lor libera. Educatia e necesara doar pentru a putea functiona apoi indoctrinati intr-o lume de sclavi.
http://www.continuum-concept.org/cc_defined.html

Infants whose continuum needs are fulfilled during the early, in-arms phase grow up to have greater self-esteem and become more independent than those whose cries go unanswered for fear of "spoiling" them or making them too dependent.

Despre aplicarea gresita a ideii de mai sus in societatea moderna :
http://www.continuum-concept.org/reading/whosInControl.html

Acest topic a fost editat de jet li: 3 Jul 2009, 11:47 AM

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http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/200...hips.features10

Experts agree that one of the strands common to all traditional cultures is a lack of cynicism when it comes to babies' needs. There is no belief that meeting a small baby's wants will spoil him, or that mother will be "wrapped around his little finger". Instead, crying is interpreted as part of a call-and-response system, requiring the swiftest possible reaction from parents, grandparents and older siblings. In this model of high-intensity care, crying is reserved for its real use - abandonment, injury and illness - and the infant does not learn to cry for the slightest thing. The irony is this: when parents make no attempt to teach the principles of delayed gratification, babies are more likely to learn it anyway.

The anecdotal evidence is unevaluated but consistent: travellers to South America, Asia and Africa report that babies - who are carried everywhere - are rarely heard to cry. Friends who have travelled off the beaten track in Japan, India, South Africa and Peru offer the same story. Equally, white babies are famous around the globe for their ability to burst into tears. According to the eminent psychoanalyst Erik H Erikson, women of the Sioux tribe in Dakota would complain at the American hospital practice of separating mother and baby at birth, because, they said, it taught the usually passive Sioux infant to "cry like a white baby".

Anthropologists validate such stories. A long-term Harvard University study of Gusii families in Kenya suggested that here were some of the quietest babies on the planet. Gusii babies cried less than half as much as American babies. When Gusii women were shown a video of an American mother and grandmother changing the nappy of a screaming baby, they became agitated. They were amazed that neither woman was able to soothe the baby's tears. Elsewhere, a study of Mexican babies found no intensive crying whatsoever, while researchers who went to Korea to study colic, evening crying and the two-month-crying peak could find no evidence for any of these phenomena.

Acelasi "povesti" apar si in "The Continuum Concept".