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> Spre O Ciocnire A Civilizatiilor?, Islamul si Califatul universal
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Focul a ajuns in inima Parisului
Franta se indreapta spre anarhie

Violentele au ajuns in centrul capitalei franceze. Cei care care au provocat haos in suburbii au prins curaj si au incendiat treisprezece masini in apropiere de zona istorica a Parisului, Place de la Republique.
In toata Franta, peste 1.300 de vehicule au fost incendiate de bande de tineri. Au mai cazut prada flacarilor cladiri publice, depozite si sedii comerciale, doua scoli si un gimnaziu. Zeci de elicoptere ale politiei au survolat zonele devastate. Peste 300 de persoane au fost arestate. Ingrijorator este insa faptul ca incidentele se extind in toata tara. In Nantes, Rennes si Rouen, dar si in sud-vest la Toulouse, pompierii au fost chemati sa stinga mai multe masini si pubele in flacari. Incidente au fost semnalate si in bastionul cultural Avignon, din sud, dar si in statiuni precum Nisa ori Cannes. Incendii au aparut si in orase precum Nantes in sud-vest, in regiunea orasului nordic Lille, dar si in est la Strasbourg, si in muntii Ardeni la Saint-Dizier. (...)

http://www.adevarulonline.ro/index.jsp?pag...ticle_id=161213

“International terrorism” is a meaningless phrase because terrorism is not a political movement but a method of warfare employed in any war conflict. The “Tamil tigers,” for instance, widely use suicide terrorists in their fight against the central government of Sri Lanka. But it is clear that those who speak of “international terrorism” do not mean the “Tamil tigers” or Sikhs, for example. So let us call a spade a spade and discuss the horizontal net structure of radical Islam (Al Qaeda is but one cell of it) that has declared a war on the West and employs terror, that is the massive murder of non-combatants, as its principal tool of warfare. A net structure provides a certain common ideology to bring together groups that arise independently in various regions exploiting local problems and conflicts. Destroyed cells get replaced with new ones, especially as there is no shortage of both young enthusiasts and financial resources. All the world saw on TV screens exulted mobs in Arab streets that were celebrating the death of thousands of Americans on September 11.

These are factors that turn the radical Islam’s challenge to the West extremely serious and dangerous. Especially because its aims and ideological targets make it totalitarian. The traditional terrorism was and remains an “applied” art. The subjects that resorted to it were seeking specifically defined practical aims: independence of a territory, freedom of some convicted criminals, ransoms, etc.

The terrorism of Islamists is metaphysical terrorism seeking an Absolute, the destruction of the godless West, establishing the God’s kingdom on the Earth as a Universal Caliphate. The targets are absurd and unrealistic but they are still attractive for thousands, if not millions of fanatics. They want not the sermons of the world political actors on the global scene, but a complete destruction. (...)

http://www.newtimes.ru/eng/detail.asp?art_id=1204



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mesaj 7 Nov 2005, 10:21 PM
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QUOTE (actionmedia @ 7 Nov 2005, 09:18 PM)
QUOTE (Nevrednicul @ 7 Nov 2005, 06:22 AM)
Puteti sa radeti cat vreti, pana va saturati. Profetiile sfintilor parinti, insuflate de Sfantul Duh, raman valabile.

Care profetii? Alea dupa forumul indicat de tine?
1. E un simplu forum
2. Se refera la Constantinopol
3. Daca este autentica, pe vremea cand a fost facuta turcii reprezentau o amenintare.

Nu exclud posibilitatea unor acte organizate de terorism in Franta. Dar de aici si pana la invazii rolleyes.gif ...

Re: 1 & 2. In explicatiile la profetia Sf. Mc. si Ep. Metodie al Patarelor, postate mai jos pe acelasi thread din forum, se arata ca acestea se refera si la o invazie musulmana in Vestul Europei, care va precede eliberarea Bizantului.

Re: 3. Profetia Sf. Metodie dateaza din sec. III, asadar, cu peste 700 de ani inainte ca turcii sa-si faca simtita prezenta in Anatolia. De altfel, in profetie turcilor nu li se spune pe nume, ci sunt numiti indirect, ca "agareni" si "ismaeliteni" (descendentii patriarhului Avraam prin Ismael, fiul acestuia cu roaba Agar).

Este prea devreme sa vorbim de o invazie militara. Cum am mai spus pe thread, vom putea vorbi de asa ceva doar daca atacurile musulmane nu se calmeaza si daca Iranul nu va obtine aprobarea UE pentru continuarea programului sau nuclear, aprobare pe care o cere Uniunii, ce coincidenta, chiar in aceste zile (Sursa).

Sa nu uitam, insa, ca scopul final al Islamului, conform falsilor lor profeti, este instaurarea Califatului universal: "The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) said: The Caliphate of Prophecy will last thirty years; then Allah will give the Kingdom of His Kingdom to anyone He wills." (Hadith, Book 40, Number 4629, Sursa). "But just as demonstrating Soviet impotence in Afghanistan was the key to Central Asia, Islamists may hope that an American failure in Iraq will establish the unstoppability of a universal Caliphate. What Kabul signified to the 'stans Baghdad could represent to the world. Although Islamic arms in Iraq have met only with military defeat, they have been much more successful in showing that the Western world lacks the will to resolutely oppose the emergence of a Global Caliphate." (Sursa) " Attempts to reestablish the caliphate have now been taken over by a number of Islamist movements, including in Indonesia, the most prominent being the Hizb al-Tahrir ("Party of Liberation") -- as reflected through its pamphlets distributed during rallies across the country to protest the U.S. actions in Iraq. Such Islamist movements view the establishment of a single and universal caliphate as the only solution to Muslim disunity and predicament vis-a-vis the West." (Sursa)

Va rog sa va abtineti de la prozelitim religios pe topicurile de la Politica. Mesajele ulterioare care contin atacuri la adresa altor religii sau propaganda pentru o anumita religie vor fi editate. Aici se discuta politica, nu religie.
Multumesc.


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Nevrednicul   Spre O Ciocnire A Civilizatiilor?   6 Nov 2005, 09:08 PM
MIA   ... există vreo dovadă că au fost/s...   6 Nov 2005, 09:41 PM
SORIN   Nu Mia...au fost Elvetieni de religie Bahai S...   6 Nov 2005, 10:07 PM
Nevrednicul   Dupa anumite profetii ale unor sfinti ortodocsi (S...   6 Nov 2005, 11:19 PM
SORIN   QUOTE inclusiv o invazie militara pan-musulmana in...   6 Nov 2005, 11:36 PM
bdl   Potentialul de degenerare intr-un conflict al civi...   7 Nov 2005, 01:33 AM
Nevrednicul   QUOTE (bdl @ 7 Nov 2005, 01:33 AM)Bine mai Br...   7 Nov 2005, 02:03 AM
bdl   Eu zic sa o intrebam pe mama Omida....si preziceri...   7 Nov 2005, 03:58 AM
Nevrednicul   QUOTE (bdl @ 7 Nov 2005, 03:58 AM)Eu zic sa o...   7 Nov 2005, 04:36 AM
bdl   Nevrednicule, Vrei sa facem prinsoare ca nu o sa f...   7 Nov 2005, 05:34 AM
talusa   QUOTE (MIA @ 6 Nov 2005, 09:41 PM) ... exist...   7 Nov 2005, 05:55 AM
Nevrednicul   Puteti sa radeti cat vreti, pana va saturati. Prof...   7 Nov 2005, 06:22 AM
Nevrednicul   QUOTE (bdl @ 7 Nov 2005, 05:34 AM)Nevrednicul...   7 Nov 2005, 06:59 AM
MIA   QUOTE (Nevrednicul @ 6 Nov 2005, 11:19 PM) Daca at...   7 Nov 2005, 07:36 AM
abis   QUOTE (Nevrednicul @ 7 Nov 2005, 02:03 AM) Ce o sa...   7 Nov 2005, 08:47 AM
talusa   QUOTE (talusa @ 7 Nov 2005, 05:55 AM) QUOTE (MIA ...   7 Nov 2005, 10:20 AM
MIA   QUOTE (abis @ 7 Nov 2005, 08:47 AM) QUOTE (Nevredn...   7 Nov 2005, 11:06 AM
Achernar   Era buna si Guyana la ceva ...   7 Nov 2005, 04:25 PM
calfa   QUOTE (MIA @ 7 Nov 2005, 12:06 PM) Nu poooottt sa ...   7 Nov 2005, 05:20 PM
Leonardo   Ciocnirile dintre civilizatii nu sunt o noutate si...   7 Nov 2005, 06:44 PM
actionmedia   QUOTE (Nevrednicul @ 7 Nov 2005, 06:22 AM) Puteti ...   7 Nov 2005, 09:18 PM
Nevrednicul   QUOTE (actionmedia @ 7 Nov 2005, 09:18 PM)QUO...   7 Nov 2005, 10:21 PM
bdl   Inca unu ....mai sinteti multi fratilor? Ce naiba ...   8 Nov 2005, 01:15 AM
Nevrednicul   QUOTE (bdl @ 8 Nov 2005, 01:15 AM)Inca unu .....   8 Nov 2005, 01:58 AM
talusa   QUOTE (Nevrednicul @ 8 Nov 2005, 01:58 AM) QU...   8 Nov 2005, 08:02 AM
bdl   QUOTE (Nevrednicul @ 7 Nov 2005, 06:58 PM) QUOTE (...   8 Nov 2005, 01:19 PM
actionmedia   QUOTE (Nevrednicul @ 7 Nov 2005, 10:21 PM) Re: 1 ...   8 Nov 2005, 02:56 PM
talusa   QUOTE (actionmedia @ 8 Nov 2005, 02:56 PM) De unde...   8 Nov 2005, 04:34 PM
Nevrednicul   QUOTE (actionmedia @ 8 Nov 2005, 02:56 PM)QUO...   8 Nov 2005, 05:47 PM
abis   Revin cu rugamintea de a discuta despre politica, ...   8 Nov 2005, 05:55 PM
Nevrednicul   QUOTE (abis @ 8 Nov 2005, 05:55 PM)Revin cu r...   8 Nov 2005, 06:28 PM
Tinkerbell   Mda....Speculatii se pot face oricate. Cred ca nu ...   8 Nov 2005, 07:20 PM
talusa   QUOTE (abis @ 8 Nov 2005, 05:55 PM) Revin cu rugam...   8 Nov 2005, 08:44 PM
abis   QUOTE (Nevrednicul @ 8 Nov 2005, 06:28 PM) Daca mo...   9 Nov 2005, 08:23 AM
MIA   Una peste alta e cam o aberatie totusi sa vorbim d...   9 Nov 2005, 10:29 AM
abis   Ai sa te miri, dar sunt de acord cu tine. Sistemul...   9 Nov 2005, 12:42 PM
MIA   Ce mi se pare mie cu adevărat grav e că ...   9 Nov 2005, 01:22 PM
talusa   Off-topic   9 Nov 2005, 03:52 PM
actionmedia   Editat Prin urmare aceasta "profetie" n...   9 Nov 2005, 05:08 PM
abis   Nu pot fi on-line 24 de ore din 24. Daca discutia ...   10 Nov 2005, 08:57 AM
talusa   QUOTE (abis @ 10 Nov 2005, 08:57 AM) Nu pot fi on-...   10 Nov 2005, 09:31 AM
abis   QUOTE (talusa @ 10 Nov 2005, 09:31 AM) Dar religi...   10 Nov 2005, 09:43 AM
talusa   QUOTE (abis @ 10 Nov 2005, 09:43 AM) QUOTE (talusa...   10 Nov 2005, 10:32 AM
Nevrednicul   QUOTE (talusa @ 10 Nov 2005, 09:31 AM) acest...   10 Nov 2005, 11:07 AM
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