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jet li
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Suntem in UE acum, am fost prinsi.
Vom primi ordine de la UE si le vom asculta, pentru ca politicienii nostrii le vor asculta. De ce scrie in Constitutia noastra : stat suveran si independent daca domnu X ajuns nu stiu cum in parlamentul Europei sau domnu Y ajuns presedinte al Europei ne da ordine ? Influenta mea asupra acestor ordine e nesemnificativa, unde e democratia noastra atunci , oameni care se guverneaza dupa vointa lor ?
De ce devin lege regulile astea despre care nimeni nu m-a intrebat ?
UE - lucruri bune pentru oameni : calatorii libere si munca oriunde in UE. Atat, daca intr-adevar oamenii tarilor Europei sunt prieteni si UE e creatia si vointa lor, UE trebuie sa se opreasca la atat.

Constitutia Europeana nu a trecut la vot nici in Olanda nici in Franta, pentru ca sa o implementeze nu o mai numesc "constitutie" ci "tratat" si au rezolvat :

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/08ad3c74-1cbd-11dc...0b5df10621.html

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It will no longer be a “constitution” and there will be some cosmetic changes to make it sound less threatening, but much of the original text remains. This is slightly embarrassing for countries like Britain, France and the Netherlands who are backtracking on referendum promises.

If all goes smoothly - and it is a big if - the new treaty could be in force in 2009 after ratification mainly in national parliaments.

EXPECTED TO STAY IN

● Full-time EU president - replacing six-monthly rotating presidency

● Single EU foreign minister (with a different name)

● European diplomatic service

● Slimmed-down 18-member European Commission (may be negotiable later)

● More qualified majority voting, fewer vetoes

● New voting system to make it easier to reach decisions

● Legal personality for the EU, allowing it to sign international treaties

EXPECTED TO BE AXED

● The “constitution” title: new text will simply amend old treaties

● Symbols of statehood: flag, anthem, motto (all will remain in practice)

● Charter of fundamental rights (but only hidden in an annex)

● Reference to primacy of EU law (it’s a fact anyway)


Un fost oponent al comunismului in Rusia compara noua Uniune Europeana cu Uniunea Sovietica :
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/june2...ictatorship.htm
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It is no accident that the European Parliament, for example, reminds me of the Supreme Soviet. It looks like the Supreme Soviet because it was designed like it. Similary, when you look at the European Commission it looks like the Politburo. I mean it does so exactly, except for the fact that the Commission now has 25 members and the Politburo usually had 13 or 15 members. Apart from that they are exactly the same, unaccountable to anyone, not directly elected by anyone at all. When you look into all this bizarre activity of the European Union with its 80,000 pages of regulations it looks like Gosplan. We used to have an organisation which was planning everything in the economy, to the last nut and bolt, five years in advance. Exactly the same thing is happening in the EU. When you look at the type of EU corruption, it is exactly the Soviet type of corruption, going from top to bottom rather than going from bottom to top.

PB: But all these countries that joined the European Union did so voluntarily.

VB: No, they did not. Look at Denmark which voted against the Maastricht treaty twice. Look at Ireland [which voted against the Nice treaty]. Look at many other countries, they are under enormous pressure. It is almost blackmail. Switzerland was forced to vote five times in a referendum. All five times they have rejected it, but who knows what will happen the sixth time, the seventh time. It is always the same thing. It is a trick for idiots. The people have to vote in referendums until the people vote the way that is wanted. Then they have to stop voting. Why stop? Let us continue voting. The European Union is what Americans would call a shotgun marriage.



Acest topic a fost editat de jet li: 29 Jun 2007, 01:17 PM


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jet li   Noua Uniune Sovietica   29 Jun 2007, 12:29 PM
Eclectic   QUOTE (jet li @ 29 Jun 2007, 01:29 PM) Un fost rus...   29 Jun 2007, 12:38 PM
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