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HanuAncutei.com - ARTA de a conversa _ Odaia Filosofilor _ Physics Show That Six Day Creation Is Possible

Trimis de: Catalin pe 14 Jun 2004, 09:24 PM

Acest articol nu contine nimic din fizica care sa justifice titlul. Poate ne lamureste Mihai, cel care ne-a propus acest link, care sunt acele dovezi la care face referire titlul si cum sunt ele relevante pentru creationism vs evolutionism...

http://www.drdino.com/QandA/index.jsp?varF...nisPossible.jsp

Trimis de: Mihai pe 15 Jun 2004, 12:10 AM

Linkul corect este http://www.drdino.com/QandA/index.jsp?varFolder=CreationEvolution&varPage=PhysicsShowthatSixDayCreationisPossible.jsp

Cateva citate care sa motiveze prezenta respectivului titlu:

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The Bible clearly indicates three things about God's formation of the universe. First, the earth is the center of God's attention in the universe. By implication, the earth may also be located near the center - perhaps so man can see the glory of God's creation in every direction. Second, the universe (both matter and space itself) has been "stretched out"(1) Third, the universe has a boundary, and therefore it must have a center. If these three assumptions are plugged into the currently accepted formulas of physics, and the mathematical crank is turned, we find that we live in a universe in which clocks tick at different rates depending on your location.

Furthermore, the time dilation effect would be magnified tremendously as the universe was originally expanding. As the universe expanded, there was a point at which time was moving very rapidly at the outer edge and essentially stopped near the center. At this point in the expansion of the universe, only days were passing near the center, while billions of years were passing in the heavens. This is the inevitable conclusion based on our current knowledge of physics and starting with Biblical assumptions instead of arbitrary ones.

Trimis de: Catalin pe 15 Jun 2004, 07:29 AM

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As the universe expanded, there was a point at which time was moving very rapidly at the outer edge and essentially stopped near the center.

E buna asta...

In primul rand, fizica actuala spune ca nu exista centru al Universului! Articolul respectiv dovedeste o intelegere extrem de superficiala a teoriei relativitatii pe care se bazeaza intr-un mod absurd... Din moment ce teoria relativitatii nu permite centre preferentiale in Univers, rezulta ca fizica nu sprijina o viziunei geocentrista promovata de link.

Mai mult, chiar daca ar sprijini, de unde exact rezulta "At this point in the expansion of the universe, only days were passing near the center, while billions of years were passing in the heavens"? sa ne explice Mihai fizica din spatele acestei afirmatii daca poate!

Trimis de: Mihai pe 15 Jun 2004, 10:50 AM

http://www.answersingenesis.org/docs2002/0807tj.asp

Trimis de: Catalin pe 15 Jun 2004, 11:07 AM

Esti culmea, sa stii! Teoria relativitatii spune ca orice punct din spatiu are impresia ca este centrul din care porneste expansiunea. Gandeste-te la un balon care se umfla. Toate punctele de pe suprafata balonului se departeaza unele de celelalte. Daca privesti dintr-un punct oarecare ai impresia ca tu esti centrul si toate celelalte puncte se departeaza. Cu cat sunt mai departe cu atat se deplaseaza mai repede.

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It is remarkable that the shells are all concentric and all centered on our home galaxy, the Milky Way. If they weren't, we would not see groups of redshifts.

Nu e nimic remarcabil. E ceva valabil pentru orice punct!